Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

  1. #1
    Thread Killer Blues Harp Tom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Fairmont, WV
    Posts
    21

    Question Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Another newbie question. I am interested in using the mandolin for blues, mainly as a backup instrument. I've been reading some threads that talk about A model mandolins with oval holes made in the USA such as the Redline and Crystal Forest models. Some have commented that these mandolins aren't very good for bluegrass, but it seems to me that these models might be well-suited for playing blues. Any comments?

  2. #2
    I may be old but I'm ugly billhay4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Lakebay, Wa
    Posts
    4,162

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Sure. All it takes is an operator.
    Bill
    IM(NS)HO

  3. #3
    Mando accumulator allenhopkins's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Rochester NY 14610
    Posts
    17,378

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Blues has been played on a wide variety of instruments; the most common ones I've seen have been carved-top oval hole instruments, usually old Gibson A-models. But a flat-top, oval-hole would sound fine as well.

    Nothing inherent about the blues, from my perspective, that would demand any particular instrument type. Resonator mandolins, like my old National Duolian, have an interesting funky sound that seems to suit blues playing, but I'd say you could play blues on a F-5 if you wanted to. Or a bowl-back. Just adjust your playing to the strengths of the instrument.
    Allen Hopkins
    Gibsn: '54 F5 3pt F2 A-N Custm K1 m'cello
    Natl Triolian Dobro mando
    Victoria b-back Merrill alumnm b-back
    H-O mandolinetto
    Stradolin Vega banjolin
    Sobell'dola Washburn b-back'dola
    Eastmn: 615'dola 805 m'cello
    Flatiron 3K OM

  4. #4
    coprolite mandroid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Outer Spiral Arm, of Galaxy, NW Oregon.
    Posts
    17,123

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    More authentic would be a cigar box mandolin , since not everybody on the Delta Plantations
    could afford a real mandolin.

    or Guitar .. Bo Diddley used a Square bodied unique Guitar, as a tribute to those roots of the Music
    and the musicians of that tradition.
    Made it quickly recovered when some junkie stole his guitar at a gig, and tried to Pawn it.
    writing about music
    is like dancing,
    about architecture

  5. #5
    bon vivant jaycat's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Boston, Mass.
    Posts
    2,777

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    What you really need to play the blues is for your woman to leave you, have a hellhound on your trail, and to ain't got but the one thin dime. The type of mandolin is really secondary.
    "The paths of experimentation twist and turn through mountains of miscalculations, and often lose themselves in error and darkness!"
    --Leslie Daniel, "The Brain That Wouldn't Die."

    Some tunes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa1...SV2qtug/videos

  6. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jaycat For This Useful Post:


  7. #6

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Some of them are, resonators, ovals, ff. You decide.

  8. #7
    Innocent Bystander JeffD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Upstate New York
    Posts
    24,807
    Blog Entries
    56

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blues Harp Tom View Post
    Another newbie question. I am interested in using the mandolin for blues, mainly as a backup instrument. I've been reading some threads that talk about A model mandolins with oval holes made in the USA such as the Redline and Crystal Forest models. Some have commented that these mandolins aren't very good for bluegrass, but it seems to me that these models might be well-suited for playing blues. Any comments?
    Well its wrong to say they aren't very good for bluegrass. Less optimum perhaps, but hardly "not very good".

    Blues is not as small a tent, and just about any mandolin will work well, oval hole, f hole, resonator, electric, all have had their particular blues geniuses.



    Until recently I have been strictly an oval hole guy. My recent experiences with f holes lead me to the opinion that oval holes are a little better for strictly backup, in that an f hole mandolin is so darn focused it is perhaps a might harder to stay in the background. At least I am finding it to be. This would be for all genres, not just the blues. And its only my opinion.
    A talent for trivializin' the momentous and complicatin' the obvious.

    The entire staff
    funny....

  9. #8
    Innocent Bystander JeffD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Upstate New York
    Posts
    24,807
    Blog Entries
    56

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    duplicate
    A talent for trivializin' the momentous and complicatin' the obvious.

    The entire staff
    funny....

  10. #9
    My Florida is scooped pheffernan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Posts
    3,870

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Lil' Rev plays a Flatiron pancake as his blues mandolin and there's one just like it in the Classifieds: http://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/74058.
    1924 Gibson A Snakehead
    2005 National RM-1
    2007 Hester A5
    2009 Passernig A5
    2015 Black A2-z
    2010 Black GBOM
    2017 Poe Scout
    2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
    2018 Vessel TM5
    2019 Hogan F5

  11. #10
    Purveyor of Sunshine sgarrity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    5,659

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    The great thing about the blues is that it doesn't matter what kind of instrument you have. Just grab one and get after it!

  12. #11
    Registered User Freddyfingers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    470

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    I have been using my Loar 600. it works. However I think there is some truth in the sound inferences ion oval holes. From what I have heard, its a bit mellower, or at least it doesn't cut through as much as my 600 does. So, I am looking around for one as well. It has also been suggested a mandola , with its fuller sound, may be a good fit. Sadly, none are in my area.
    Its not a backwards guitar.

  13. #12
    Registered User Cheryl Watson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    St. Augustine, Florida, USA
    Posts
    1,524

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    I like a more fundamental, drier tone for playing blues and cheaper instruments often sound great--you just need great playability--a really good setup.

  14. #13
    Bark first, Bite later Steve Zawacki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Sumter County, FL
    Posts
    498

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Blues could be played on a steel drum. Granted, some instruments may be more traditional than others, but the musician makes the difference. Get the mandolin you really like and you'll make it wail....
    ...Steve

    Current Stable: Two Tenor Guitars (Martin 515, Blueridge BR-40T), a Tenor Banjo (Deering GoodTime 17-Fret), a Mandolin (Burgess #7). two Banjo-Ukes and five Ukuleles..

    The inventory is always in some flux, but that's part of the fun.

  15. The following members say thank you to Steve Zawacki for this post:


  16. #14
    Registered User Ken Olmstead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Anchorage, AK
    Posts
    2,020
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Blues mandolin has no prescribed instrument like Shaun eluded to. The volume and "cut" of F holes is desirable when you are within 100 yards of a fiddle, banjo and a D-28 "Canon!" Flat tops and carved oval holes have more sustain and overtones that are desirable when you are not having to slice through a wall of sound or are in a more intimate setting. Flat tops like the Flatiron or the Redline Traveler do sound great for blues though, IMO!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/tenorbanjoguy

    "Gettin' by" with the imports!

  17. #15

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaycat View Post
    to ain't got but the one thin dime
    Gotta love that blues grammar.

  18. #16
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Maryville, TN
    Posts
    349

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    I'd say yes.

  19. #17
    Mandolin Botherer Shelagh Moore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Leicestershire, UK
    Posts
    1,378

    Default Re: Are flat top A models good for playing blues?

    Both of mine sound good but the National sounds better still...

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •