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    From an old Gibson catalog, I believe. My local luthier had it posted up in his shop.

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    I love it! Gibson A and F model mandolins were an emerging technology that displaced the tried and true (but hard to hold) tater-bugs. What will be next... carbon-fiber replacing wood?

    Ovation displaced a number of traditional guitars for several decades but we can see how that turned out over the long-haul.

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    That is one of the coolest mandolin posters I've ever seen. The fact that it's done in a pseudo-political-cartoon style is great! I'm a sucker for vintage propaganda/political posters, and this one really says a lot! Thanks for posting it.

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    It is a cool drawing. I don't know when it was done probably back in the first two decades of the 20th century because I recall seeing it in the mid-1970's and I remember thinking of it as "old" at the time! edit -- on second look the date 1908 is on the drawing! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samlyman View Post
    I love it! Gibson A and F model mandolins were an emerging technology that displaced the tried and true (but hard to hold) tater-bugs. What will be next... carbon-fiber replacing wood?

    Ovation displaced a number of traditional guitars for several decades but we can see how that turned out over the long-haul.

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    Bernie: I've got one! A wall-hanger purchased from a wanna-be hippie kid that was passing through town and needed $50 in a bad way!

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    Looks like we have already discussed where to find old copies of the magazine that was run in:

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlyman View Post
    Bernie: I've got one! A wall-hanger purchased from a wanna-be hippie kid that was passing through town and needed $50 in a bad way! Sam
    Sam great minds think alike -- here is the scene above our 1926 Steinway & Sons upright. Our piano does not have a Virzi though.
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    Thanks, Amanda. This crops up here from time to time. A great image. I think it is interesting to see which bowlback manufacturers get a shout-out as they are swept to sea: Regal, Brandt, Bay State, Waldo. Not exactly the Big Four.

    And then there were those who didn't: Vega, Martin, Washburn / Lyon + Healy, Schmidt, who might have been Gibson's real competition.

    The tater-bugs sure look creepy, though.

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    The shame of it is that there now is no, (or hardly any) luthiers making bowlbacks, here in the US. Its hard to find a bowlback on the continent that is under 100 years old.


    The sweeping was a little too thorough I am afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    The shame of it is that there now is no, (or hardly any) luthiers making bowlbacks, here in the US. Its hard to find a bowlback on the continent that is under 100 years old. The sweeping was a little too thorough I am afraid.
    Fighting back against "the sweep" one taterbug at a time! Very cool video.

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    That would look great on the front of a tee shirt.

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    That would look great on the front of a tee shirt.
    I agree. But I don't think Caterina Lichtenberg would want one!
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    That carton was originally an ad in the September, 1908 issue of "The Cadenza" magazine. The artist's name was William Foster. Gibson certainly didn't pull any punches when it came to trashing the competition.
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    Oh the other hand Gibson also touted the harp guitar as what would eventually replace the 6-string -- you see how effective that was. It is only in the last decade or two that harp guitars have had any following.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Oh the other hand Gibson also touted the harp guitar as what would eventually replace the 6-string -- you see how effective that was. It is only in the last decade or two that harp guitars have had any following.
    Harp is a nice word. The term 'tater-bug' makes me cringe almost as much as 'Gibby'. Verbal / mental nails on a chalkboard.

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    I have a small collection of vintage Gibson sheet music and this is on one with a copyright date of 1910.

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    Here's the original ad:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda Gregg View Post
    From an old Gibson catalog, I believe. My local luthier had it posted up in his shop.

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    Am I the only one who finds this illustration creepy? The face on the Gibson-thing looks rather demonic. The scroll definitely is a horn. Funny, in a sardonic and sinister way, but definitely creepy.

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    I find it interesting that they were thought of as "bugs" even back then. Must be an old name for the form.
    I also enjoyed the banners flying from the buildings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bratsche View Post
    Am I the only one who finds this illustration creepy? The face on the Gibson-thing looks rather demonic. The scroll definitely is a horn. Funny, in a sardonic and sinister way, but definitely creepy.

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    It is creepy; looks like violence was way more pc than today. Also, the idea of "progress" in the art of building instruments (heck, or in any art) seems kind of outdated to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. E View Post
    I find it interesting that they were thought of as "bugs" even back then. Must be an old name for the form.
    I also enjoyed the banners flying from the buildings.
    Yeah, I did notice that the caption below the ad (in the original version posted by pfox14) referred to "potato bugs". So the term was apparently in common use even in 1908. It would be interesting to see when it was first used, and by whom. Could have been a marketing ploy by Gibson to poke fun at bowlbacks.

    But then again, considering the colloquialisms of those who settled most of the United States, and considering that most of them were farmers, I would rather tend to think that the term grew from the natural similarity to the actual potato beetle (which must have been an infuriating pest for potato farmers). I mean, how can you look at this critter and not think of a bowlback mandolin? Humans have a surprisingly common tendency to name (or nickname) their creations after what they see in nature.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Daniel View Post
    Fighting back against "the sweep" one taterbug at a time! Very cool video.
    Very cool. I could hire myself out as a luthier watcher. I could just sit and watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobin View Post
    Yeah, I did notice that the caption below the ad (in the original version posted by pfox14) referred to "potato bugs". So the term was apparently in common use even in 1908. It would be interesting to see when it was first used, and by whom. Could have been a marketing ploy by Gibson to poke fun at bowlbacks.

    But then again, considering the colloquialisms of those who settled most of the United States, and considering that most of them were farmers, I would rather tend to think that the term grew from the natural similarity to the actual potato beetle (which must have been an infuriating pest for potato farmers). I mean, how can you look at this critter and not think of a bowlback mandolin? Humans have a surprisingly common tendency to name (or nickname) their creations after what they see in nature.

    Yes Potato bugs (aka Leptinotarsa decemlineata or ten-stripe potato beetle) -- I dealt them long before I knew what a mandolin was. One of the things we did to try making a living on the North Dakota prairies was to raise certified seed potatoes. The dry air of the Dakotas is good for avoiding a lot of the potato plant diseases but the potato bugs were there. They are difficult to control with pesticides which were not great in the late '40's -early '50's anyway. But since the seed potato fields were small my grandfather use a "manual" approach -- he would unleash about 30 of his grandchildren on a field each armed with a small tin can of kerosene. We stripped the fields of the bugs as they do not seem to swim well in kerosene. At the end of growing season we each received two silver dollars for our efforts and we considered ourselves very lucky and wealthy indeed.
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    I guess the term "tater bug" was, indeed, meant to poke fun at bowlbacks, since I've never heard somebody call them "Colorado Beetle mandolins".

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