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    Yeah completely agree. It kind of evolved to something else.. I don't think I can change the subject though at this stage. Happy for a moderator to change it to something more reflective of what it is now - people that have signed Gibson F5 labels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jochemgr View Post
    It kind of evolved to something else.

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    In the interest of accuracy for the list, my 1980 f 5l was signed by Jerry Rowland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siminoff View Post
    I've doubled back with Jim Deurloo, Rendell Wall, and Marv - and Marv did not sign any. …R
    I'm pretty sure he did. Here's another one.
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    Mike the date caught my eye on both labels as the same so I saved both and viewed them side by side. They are the same Photo and likely the same mandolin.
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    Maybe that one was so less than perfect that they had to draw straws to decide who had to sign it before they went home for the evening and could forget about it at the local pub.
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    Hi
    I think I' now the owner of the mandolin signed by Paul Schneider shown in your post. I bought in Picker's shop near Washington DC a couple of years ago and now in with me in Italy
    Do any one has info about previous owner ?

    Thank you
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    Check for David Harvey. I was fortunate enough to take a few months of mando lessons from him several years ago, and he's a fantastic player and luthier.

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    Check for David Harvey. I was fortunate enough to take a few months of mando lessons from him several years ago, and he's a fantastic player and luthier.
    Do you think he can have info on my mando's previous owners ?
    Have you any contact of David ?

    Thank's

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    He's on Facebook, you can send him a pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manolo View Post
    Do you think he can have info on my mando's previous owners ?
    Have you any contact of David ?

    Thank's
    I seriously doubt Dave will have any information on the previous owner. Even if Gibson checked their sales records that mandolin was probably in several hands before you bought it. They "might" have the information on the original owner but I doubt they would share that information.
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    I agree with you.
    But the question was another: I've seen in this post a picture of a master model signed by Paul Schneider 19th may 1998. Compared with mine I found out that is the same label of my mandolin. I mean that picture was taken from the mandolin I've bought near Washington a couple of years ago
    I was asking if some one knows who were the previous owner, just to track the history of this mando...

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    Quote Originally Posted by manolo View Post
    I agree with you.
    But the question was another: I've seen in this post a picture of a master model signed by Paul Schneider 19th may 1998. Compared with mine I found out that is the same label of my mandolin. I mean that picture was taken from the mandolin I've bought near Washington a couple of years ago
    I was asking if some one knows who were the previous owner, just to track the history of this mando...
    I totally understand that. That image might have come from a Google search that popped up the images from a previous advertisement for the mandolin.
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    This post says the image came from an ad for a mandolin for sale at Picker's Supply. I'm going to hazard a guess that the store you bought it from might have been Picker's Supply.
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    I really bought this mandolin by Picker's supply...!!!

    Mistery solved !!
    Thank you

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    I now own the F5 G which is signed by Paul Schneider and is the same serial number as shown on Pickers supply website. I would love to have any information anyone else has on my Mando.

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    How come Roger Siminoff isn’t on the list?

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    "How come Roger Siminoff isn’t on the list?"

    See posts #35 and #53. Cheers.
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    Gibson does not have a list of retail buyers of their instruments. They only have the dealer it was sold to. Remember, Gibson is a wholesale manufacturer whose customers are the dealers. The retail buyer is the customer of the dealer. Most dealers don’t keep very good records of their customers, especially if it was a number of years ago.
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    Big Joe that brings up a fun fact for me,,,,my mandolin is an F-5L dated Feb 12 1980----serial#-83110018,,,,,How could i found out where/what store it was originally sold to?I would be interested to know this!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    Somewhere here we have a post by Joe Vest, a former Gibson employee that mentions that Sim was the only one signing the underside of the top on mandolins. The other builders apparently didn't do that. I think you should just remove Julius Bellson from the list. The next thing to do would be to identify the years missing.
    Sim also signed the underside of the tops of Flatirons built by Gibson. So the same teams worked on F5-L/F5-G and Flatiron Artist/Festival? I have a Flatiron Artist and a Festival from 2000 with Sim’s signatures on the tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacraw54 View Post
    Sim also signed the underside of the tops of Flatirons built by Gibson. So the same teams worked on F5-L/F5-G and Flatiron Artist/Festival? I have a Flatiron Artist and a Festival from 2000 with Sim’s signatures on the tops.
    Apparently, not only Sim signed mandolin tops. The top on my DMM F5 is signed "Michael Owens Sept. 2005".

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    I wonder if Big Joe knew that.
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    Any idea whose signature is on this Bozeman F5-L from 1994?
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    That appears to be a new one.
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