This says 1980, assuming that's correct I'll change his listing to reflect that.
This says 1980, assuming that's correct I'll change his listing to reflect that.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Changed to add a year to Jerry Rowland.
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2005) *
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
* Denotes there is a picture of a signed label in this thread
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Just an added note that is elsewhere in this thread: Although this is called Gibson Head Luthiers it is in reality a list as close as can be determined by labels and records of who signed Gibson and Flatiron labels by year. If you have a signed label that you cannot recognize, a label signed by someone not listed, or have a label with a signature that falls outside the dates listed for the particular signer of labels please post a picture of the label. I'd like to thank the OP for starting this thread an everyone that has contributed. This is actually a nice resource.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Changed to add Gene M. Rufel.
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2005) *
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
If Bobby Osborne, Ricky Skaggs and Doyle Lawson etc can be considered for the list, I would suggest Dennis Balian be added. He was general manager during the switchover, and had a role in the shop for years with “hands on the mandolins” work…
Last edited by 108 Mile; Jan-15-2022 at 12:04pm. Reason: Spelling
1988 Flatiron F5 Artist
2017 Collings D1
Taylor GS mini hog
Did he sign any labels? Has anyone got an image of a signed label? I'm more than happy to add people if there is something that shows they had a signature on a label. We have a few Gibson General managers that signed labels.
The subject is misleading. What it says isn't what this turned out to be.
https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...=1#post1836126
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Can anyone determine the actual spelling of the name on that label? I don't want to guess and get it wrong.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Most often misspelled name ever….lol! Dennis A Balian
1988 Flatiron F5 Artist
2017 Collings D1
Taylor GS mini hog
1988 Flatiron F5 Artist
2017 Collings D1
Taylor GS mini hog
Added Dennis A. Balian:
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Dennis A. Balien (1988) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2005) *
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Another clarifying note. Gibson purchased Flatiron in 1987. Flatiron labels signed after that time are technically Gibson products built by Gibson employees.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Mac Morris, 1980. No label yet but an ad for an F5L sold at Carter's that mentions the instrument, signature and date.
Last edited by MikeEdgerton; Jan-31-2022 at 11:36am.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Added Mac Morris:
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Mac Morris (1980)
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Dennis A. Balien (1988) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2005) *
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
* Signed label in thread
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
There apparently was an error introduced into the original list at one point where Charlie Derrington's date advanced beyond 2003 with no mention or picture of a found label. I have adjusted Charlie's date. If anyone has a signed Derrington label after 2003 please post it. Thanks.
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Mac Morris (1980)
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Dennis A. Balien (1988) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2003) * #
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
* Signed label in thread
# Date adjusted
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
His last sign label was in January 2005. I will find a picture and post it later today. It was in the master model that Bill Lily had.
'02 Gibson master model #70327 02-01-02
'25 Gibson A-4 Snakehead #82626
'06 Hicks #1 and #2 F-5 still not done
Gibson F-5 Master Model Registry
When we get the 2005 label for Charlie we will return it to the 2005 date. Thanks everyone.
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Mac Morris (1980)
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Dennis A. Balien (1988) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2004) * #
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
* Signed label in thread
# Date adjusted
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
'02 Gibson master model #70327 02-01-02
'25 Gibson A-4 Snakehead #82626
'06 Hicks #1 and #2 F-5 still not done
Gibson F-5 Master Model Registry
'02 Gibson master model #70327 02-01-02
'25 Gibson A-4 Snakehead #82626
'06 Hicks #1 and #2 F-5 still not done
Gibson F-5 Master Model Registry
OK, back to the way it was. I'm assuming the OP found this out but it wasn't documented by that point. It was just odd. I went back and re-read up to that point where it changed but there was nothing to indicate why it changed. Thanks again.
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Mac Morris (1980)
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Dennis A. Balien (1988) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2005) * #
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
* Signed label in thread
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
For posterity, the Gibson 1923 reissue label released in 2023 with a facsimile signature of Lloyd Loar on the label.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Added Lloyd Loar Facsimile label for 2023.
Lloyd Loar (1922-1924) *
Stanley E. Rendell (1970-1975) *
Carl Spinoso (1976-1977) *
Wilbur D. Fuller (1978) *
Richard J. Doan (1978-1981) *
Aaron Cowles (1978-1984) *
Herman Meints (1979-1980) *
Rick Brown (1980) *
Marvin Lamb (1980) *
Mac Morris (1980)
Donald L. Doans (1981)
Jerry Rowland (1980-1981) *
Gene M Rufel (1981) *
Dennis A. Balien (1988) *
Jim Triggs (1986-1989)
Greg Rich (1989)
Steve P. Carlson (1986-1993) *
Rick Gembar (1994)
Bill Monroe (1991-1995) *
Phil Brug (1993-1994) *
Neal Klemmer, Helen Beausoleil, and Jean Swan (all signed the same label) (1996) *
Bruce D. Weber (1993-1997) *
Bobby Osborne (1993-1996) *
Larry Barnwell (1994-1995) *
Paul Schneider (1997-1998) *
Jeff Allen (2000) *
Simeon C. Daley (1998-2001) *
Charles Derrington (1987-2005) * #
Danny Roberts (2001-2005) *
Doyle Lawson (2003?)
Casey Q. Sullivan (2005-2007) *
Ricky Skaggs (2007-2008)
David W. Harvey (2007-Present) *
Sam Bush (2012) *
Lloyd Loar (Facsimile) (2023) *
* Signed label in thread
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
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