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    I brought this mandolin home on Sunday!

    This is (reportedly) the only traditionally-styled F5 mandolin ever made by famous guitar & mandolin maker Danny Ferrington, which would make it a quite valuable instrument in its own right...but the COOL thing, the thing that had me seeking this mandolin for over 20 years, is that it is THE instrument that set my feet on the path of the mandolin.

    When I was 15-16 years old and a mere beginner musician, Charlie Derrington, Mike Snider, Ronnie Owen, and Rick Taylor had a band called Cross Country out of Paris, TN. They would play pretty often at a little Blue Grass music club in Clarksville, TN, and I would be there at a front table every time. Cross Country was my introduction to "Newgrass" music, and remains my all-time favorite band. Their complex musical harmonies and innovative arrangements were a huge influence on my musical development, and remain so to this day.

    Charlie Derrington was a fine mandolin player and tenor singer; he became a great friend to me, and was my mandolin mentor, patiently showing me licks and exposing me to some of the greatest music ever created. A great student of mandolin construction techniques, with a reverence for the work of Lloyd Loar (who, as Gibson's "acoustic engineer" in the early 1920s, created many innovations that placed Gibson at the forefront of modern instrument design), Charlie ran his own music store for years, where he sold, restored, and repaired many of the finest examples of such historic instruments, and where his fame as a luthier grew worldwide. During this time, as I worked in Nashville, Charlie would often call me over to play these wonderful instruments, and I spent many after-work hours hanging out with Charlie at Bellevue Guitars & Gear; as a result of this, I got many opportunities to play Loar mandolins and mandolas, and was exposed to such excellent instruments on a regular basis. Charlie went on to achieve a measure of fame as "the guy" who brought Gibson back to life as a mandolin maker, drawing on the finest example of Gibson craftsmanship from their "Golden Age", and replicating the work of Lloyd Loar with an almost-religious fervor. Charlie was also the man who painstakingly (nearly-impossibly) rebuilt Bill Monroe's famous 1923 Gibson mandolin after it was smashed to bits with a fireplace poker in a prime example of "Hell Hath No Fury". Charlie became quite famous in Blue Grass music and mandolin circles (he was also a formative member of the classical/jazz "Nashville Mandolin Ensemble", which he invited me to join but I could not muster the time), but he always had time for his friends...me in particular, and his influence will go with me throughout my life.

    Charlie was tragically killed by a drunk driver (who was in the country illegally) in 2006, and I stopped actively searching for his Ferrington mandolin thereafter, thinking that Charle's wife had it, and not wanting to intrude upon her grief. But I never forgot about the mandolin, and thought of it from time to time.

    This Ferrington F5 was Charlie's mandolin during that period in the late 1970s when he first helped me become aware of the further horizons of possibilities with the mandolin and Blue Grass & jazz music, and I had never forgotten his old Ferrington. I looked for this mandolin for SO many years, and finally mustered up the courage to find and contact Charlie's widow to see if she knew the mandolin's whereabouts; but she never knew of this mandolin, as it pre-dated her 24-year marriage to Charlie, so Charlie must have gotten rid of the mandolin decades before. I was near giving up when my friend Ronnie Owen, who played guitar for Cross Country, told me he thought he knew where it was: turns out Mike Snider, who played banjo with Cross Country before going on to fame as a star of the Grand Ole Opry, got the mandolin from Charlie in about 1980, and had it all along. I hadn't been seen Mike for 20 years at least, so Ronnie put us in touch, and Mike agreed to sell it to me. I picked it up Sunday evening.

    It badly needs some stup work, and will go to Sim Daley ASAP for his mojo - as a good friend of Charlie, who helped Sim become one of the world's greatest mandolin makers, I imagine Sim will enjoy getting his hands on Charlie's main axe from back in the days when Sim was just a young Cornish fisherman and banjo player.

    Having this mandolin means the world to me. I am so thankful that Ronnie helped me find it, and that Mike was willing to trade it to me for a mere bibfull of greasy green paper. I would not trade it for an original Lloyd Loar Gibson, which are worth well into six figures; I will never own a more meaningful instrument, and I will cherish it and play it as a tribute to my great friend Charlie Derrington.

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    If memory serves, Charlie made the case himself. He took it to a custom boot maker in Nashville to have it covered in hand-tooled leather.
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    With Mike Snider.

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    Gorgeous F5, Boge! And a great story, too. Play it in good health.

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    Great story Boge! I'm glad you have that mandolin. It just seems right.

    Not a lot of people know this, but Charlie was a VERY big part of me starting up my little corner in the mandolin world many years ago. After getting the (inevitable) ax from the company he and both worked at, it was Charlie who convinced me to open up shop and start making parts for them and other builders. I thank him every day, and miss him every day. Even still...

    I'm sure Sim will have a blast making that mandolin "just right" for you. Enjoy!

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    Cool stories, insights and that mandolin...woweee. Thanks for sharing. Here's CD laying down with some Loars, at one of the Loar thingies at Louisville IBMA.
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    Great story, pics, and Congrats!

    Any idea how Charlie came by the mando? My luthier, Chris Camp, used to work at Guitars & Gear for Charlie back in the day...he's got some great stories and videos to boot!

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    One of the best stories in months -- wonderful that you found the mandolin!!

    It really does not look too bad at all from the pics you posted? Really outstanding back wood!

    And that case is to die for -- did Mr. Ferrington make that too? What can you say about Mr. Ferrington and his instruments?

    So many great parts to this story - the mandolin was right near you the entire time you just did not ask the right person, and then Derrington playing a mandolin made by Ferrington - -that's pretty amazing right there.

    Can't wait until you get a chance to post a video of that Ferrington in action.
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    Glad that mandolin finally FOUND YOU Boge!
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    I gotta say this might be one of my favorite threads that I have read on MC.
    Boge Quinn... Thank you for sharing your story, I can literally feel
    the love you have for this fine mandolin.
    I have a similar story of how I ended up with my Mando, so I totally get it.
    It's this very mandolin that I have now that resonated through me 14 years ago
    to want to play the mandolin. And after 14 years of dreaming I now own the Mando.

    Please post a video of this instrument, I guarantee we'd all love to see that.

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    DataNick, Charlie had that mandolin when I met him in about 1976. I don't know how he came to acquire it, but I imagine he talked Danny Ferrington into building a traditionally-styled F5. Mike Snider told me that it was Charlie's first mandolin.

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    Bernie Daniel, my recollection is that Charlie made the case shell himself and finished out the inside, then took it to a boot-maker in Nashville who covered it in hand-tooled leather. It is a beautiful case - neither the case nor the mandolin show the wear of the decades as one would expect. Charlie babied it.

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    Boge,

    What a wonderful story with lots of pathos and history about this famous mandolin! Thanks for sharing with us. I hope you gets lots of enjoyment from her in years to come. You will have to post a video or sound clip so that we can hear what she sounds like perhaps after you have her set up properly.
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    I plan to do just that! Thanks, the whole deal has really brought back memories.

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    Boge,

    What a wonderful story with lots of pathos and history about this famous mandolin! Thanks for sharing with us. I hope you gets lots of enjoyment from her in years to come. You will have to post a video or sound clip so that we can hear what she sounds like perhaps after you have her set up properly.

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    Gotta be the best "parking lot" sale I've ever heard of. Congrats Mr. Boge!!! Just like everybody else, I'd love to hear that mando.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanN View Post
    Cool stories, insights and that mandolin...woweee. Thanks for sharing. Here's CD laying down with some Loars, at one of the Loar thingies at Louisville IBMA.
    I remember that scene exactly! I think he called it mando porn... just before he laid down. I think my F5 is in there, as is yours, Alan.

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    That was neat, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Waltham View Post
    I remember that scene exactly! I think he called it mando porn... just before he laid down. I think my F5 is in there, as is yours, Alan.
    Yes, Ken. The photo brings that time back, in living color. I remember we all picked Bluegrass Breakdown, or Big Mon. And I do remember your mandolin. That photo (sans Charlie) was on the cover of a BU issue from around then.

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    What a great story - glad you finally found the mandolin! If it sounds as good it looks you'll be a very happy man! And that tooled leather case looks superb!

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    Looks like a really nice mandolin! To be that old the shape of everything looks really good like the headstock, scroll, points. This gentleman looks to have had the knowledge to really build a quality mandolin for sure. I will say that it could use one of Steve Smith's bridges for sure. I had a mandolin back in the late 80's early 90's that had a bridge with what appeared to have very short feet like this one does and I replaced the bridge and what an unbelievable difference! It's very possible that the feet on this bridge is not going over the tone bars and if so when a new bridge is installed look out! There will certainly be a noticeable difference. Enjoy your great looking mandolin!
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    Good story Boge, thanks for sharing. BTW I am a fan of Gunblast.com. Ya'll do a great job over there.

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    There was more than one Ferrington F5. I just posted the info in this thread:

    http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/sh...rrington/page2
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    I love stories of the History of musical instruments. This one however, wow, there's a movie here somewhere. Just add a little drama; there's so much local colour already. It would be a hit. "The Ferrington". A docudrama.

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    Beautiful story. Congratulations for keeping the faith and seeing it through. Good on 'ya.

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    It's at Sim Daley's shop right now, for him to do whatever needs doing. I expect it might get a new bridge, as Sim noticed that immediately, and I know it's in for a neck reset, fingerboard plane, and refret. Sim was a good friend of Charlie's, but did not know about this Ferrington, and he was delighted to get to see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cagle View Post
    Looks like a really nice mandolin! To be that old the shape of everything looks really good like the headstock, scroll, points. This gentleman looks to have had the knowledge to really build a quality mandolin for sure. I will say that it could use one of Steve Smith's bridges for sure. I had a mandolin back in the late 80's early 90's that had a bridge with what appeared to have very short feet like this one does and I replaced the bridge and what an unbelievable difference! It's very possible that the feet on this bridge is not going over the tone bars and if so when a new bridge is installed look out! There will certainly be a noticeable difference. Enjoy your great looking mandolin!
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    Good story Boge, thanks for sharing. BTW I am a fan of Gunblast.com. Ya'll do a great job over there.

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