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    Here's the music for one version of 'The butterfly' with chords and one version of the picking directions, that I'm trying to work out.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebwjgulp07...ords.mscz?dl=0
    All the pick directions are included, I hope it's correct. It's quite a strict version- you could replace the first note of measure 13 with a downbeat and thereby make all of the last four measures the same picking as measures 9 to 12, though the down pick at the end of measure 12 followed by a sudden down pick at the beginning of 13 could be heard as a slight change in rhythm.
    Comments for errors please -I'll try to edit without changing the link. Thanks.
    Is there a library for this music on MandolinCafe?

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    Default Re: The Butterfly, strict picking

    There are two tablature libraries here as far as I know, one is for text tabs and the other is for Tabledit (.tef) files. I noticed your file is for MuseScore, so I can't view it. I do not think there is a library for that here. Click the Learn/Listen tab upper right this site.
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    Oops here's the pdf, I have heard someone play this with just downbeats and it sounded really different, good but different:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxqunturfd...hords.pdf?dl=0

    Musescore is free by the way, it can even be loaded onto a phone, to read and play back later- I find it's been really good for learning how to read music and ear training too.

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    That's very interesting! I've always asked myself how to pick the succession of quarter notes and eight notes in a jig. I pick them with downstrokes only reserving the upstroke for the second note in a triplet. Sounds like this:

    You seem to avoid two downstrokes in a row, but to me that's an essential part of jig picking. I'll never be able to play those fast triplets as ornaments in reels, but with some exercise, I found myself preferring DUD DUD for jigs and hence DDDDD for the first measure of the Butterfly.
    Once I had internalised this concept, I didn't have to work out the pick direction for each note.

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    Hmm I play it the same as you for the 1st two bars, and I keep that pattern for the rest of tune, except where there are 2 adjacent triplets in which case I use DUD DUD. Worst of both worlds

    My music teacher hates DUD DUD on classical pieces (or any other , so I try to keep it to folk.

    I'm a musescore user too, tried getting tabedit to run on linux under wine. It ran but wouldn't open any of the files.

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    Hmm, I thought that I played with starting with two downstrokes but it appears that I keep it pretty much to DUD DUD the whole time except for at the start of the third part.

    The only time I really play with a lot of consecutive downstrokes would be when playing waltzes.


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    I'm never sure how I do it but since I have a recording - seems to be consistent:





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    Quote Originally Posted by derbex View Post
    Hmm I play it the same as you for the 1st two bars, and I keep that pattern for the rest of tune, except where there are 2 adjacent triplets in which case I use DUD DUD....
    Me too. I think that's as close to "standard" as you'll find. Some people will play the first measure pattern as all downstrokes, and a few (definitely a minority) will play the consecutive eighth notes DUD UDU.

    Reversing the picking pattern by starting measure 3 with an upstroke is pretty unusual (same with measure 7 and 13). You can accent both upstrokes and downstrokes, but most people find it easier to keep the rhythmic feel by playing a consistent pattern and always playing downstrokes on the beat.

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    I'm learning a classical triplets exercise at the moment -all down strokes, I'm sure it's good for the soul.

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    GREAT job, Jill! I would play it with those same pick directions. I think you get the proper emphasis that way.

    My goodness, you're getting fantastic volume from that A-Junior. What strings were installed when that video was made.

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    Cheers MikeyG! I had just had it set up/refretted and had my luthier put J74's on it. Had briefly debated trying flat wounds but then stuck with the tried and true J74's.
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