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    Default Re: tenor or new standard tuning

    Quote Originally Posted by maxr View Post
    Eek, 25.5 inch CGDAEB- what do you use for the B string? I tried that tuning on a Guild 12, and even NYXL 0.007s and .008s popped.
    I use strings from Octave 4 Plus.

    Here's a few topics on some things I did.

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...-my-experiment

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...andocello-Plus!

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/g...592&do=discuss

    I also used to have a Tacoma Papoose tuned in CGDAEB full fifths, but that got retuned as a 19" scale length standard tuned guitar for someone who is a little person, so it went to a good cause. I think I also posted somewhere about using high-strength monofilament fishing line as the high string to get to full fifths on a classical Yamaha Silent Guitar.
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    Default Re: tenor or new standard tuning

    Quote Originally Posted by Verne Andru View Post
    I second this and thank you for bringing it up. I have a short-scale 6-string I tune Eb Bb F C G D. To get the high D I need an .008. It took a lot of trial-and-error to realize I had to tune it in steps - tune up then let it rest, tune a bit higher then let it rest and continue until it hits pitch. Once there its quite stable.

    A big part of getting strings to hit the higher pitches is, as you note, making sure the string path is clean and clear.

    But I also think heat generated by the vibrating string is a factor. When I say I "let it rest" I'm usually considering a reasonable amount of time for the string to cool down before I go at it again. Whether true or not, the slow and steady method is the way to go.

    PS - I have been able to get the high D up a semi-tone to Eb but strings always break before hitting the high E, even with a .007 gauge.
    In fact you have to treat these strings as if they're gut strings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer View Post
    Absolutely not true, friend.

    The string path has to be free of burrs, kinks and flaws. Any potential flaw can act as a knife edge, leading to the string snapping at that location.

    The string has to be brought to pitch over time. I know people who tuned quickly, counter to the instructions, and then complained of breakage. Don't do it!

    Here's a few topics wherein I post about my sucessful experiments tuning to (low to high) CGDAEB on steel-string instruments.

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...-my-experiment

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...ndocello-Plus!

    And a social group topic wherein I posted about an easy way to convert a nylon-string guitar to CGDAEB tuning with fishing line for the top string.

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/g...#gmessage86786

    Sorry to be nitpicky about this, but I think of the Café, as well as other forums, as resources for those who will come later. Bad information takes away from the value of that knowledge and information. If someone doesn't care enough about the forum to do more than occasionally drop spam and misinformation, at least future readers and members might appreciate being given alternative ideas and claims, and can consider for themselves what might be reliable.
    You have to treat those really thin octave4plus strings as if they're gut strings.

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    They're working on updating the formula to make these strings stronger.

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