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    Default Mandolins with darker tones.

    Have a Weber Vintage oval hole. It is bright.
    Would like something with a darker tone.
    What mandolins do you suggest?

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    Use Thomastik strings or Silk and Steel.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    I had a Vintage A and I put Thomastiks on it and it toned the brightness down.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    Silverangels have dark tone, I hear.

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    Strings can make a big difference, try GHS silk and steel or silk and bronze. Might as well try some Elixir Nanos. The Thomastiks are nice too. Picks and where you pick can make a big difference. If it's a new mandolin, playing the heck out it will help. Also, if the action is quite low, might try raising it a bit. Good luck. Weber Oval holes usually are not overly bright, although it has been decades since I've played one. I do have a 2002 Bridger Manola D hole that is deep and thunderous. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    I use Pyramid Gold series flatwounds on my oval. Strings make a big difference in tone.
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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    I, too, had a Weber Vintage A oval-hole. It sounded great with flat-wounds such as Thomastics. I really liked it with JazzMandos when they were available. A thicker, less pointed pick also darkened the tone. That was a really nice sounding mandolin.
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    You may be looking for a Silverangel. They have their own unique tone.
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    Monteleone Grand Artist.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    1920s Gibson A styles

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    I put some Elixer Nanos on a Weber oval hole and the tone actually got brighter. At first, much brighter; then it mellowed out a bit. I like it now, but it is not a dark tone. I agree that the choice of picks can make a big difference on bright vs dark. I went from a Primetone to a V-Pick after I put on the Elixers. That also helped mellow it out some.

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    Of all my mandolins the Gibson F9 has the darkest tone, I love it.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hanson View Post
    Of all my mandolins the Gibson F9 has the darkest tone, I love it.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    I have a Girouard Mandola Studio A. Has some of the darkest tones of any instrument I have played. Darker and deeper than the Mowry GOM. From what I have heard, the Girouard mandolins also have dark tones, but no direct knowledge as the Mandola I got was the only Girouard I have played. When I picked it up at Carter's, I was stunned. Bought it the next day.
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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    Red bear or other caseine picks (Papas, Herve, john pearse) give darker tone with less volume. GSH silk/bronze are a little darker than phosphor/bronze, they also have silk/steel sets. Mangan Monel strings are supposed to be darker, and Thomastik flatwounds also (of those stringsets, i've only tried silk and bronze)
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    The 1917 A has a very sweet woody tone, I wouldn't describe it as dark at all.

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    Flat wound strings.
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    Did Santa get your Northfield to you? It should be dark.
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    My Eastman 505 has really strong bass tones, if thats what you mean. I dont know about other Eastman models particularly, this one just has a lot of lower end bite. I use daddario flatwounds but that doesnt make the tone any darker, just more comfy to play.

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    Much wisdom here in trying different strings and picks before you give up on this mando.
    (Much cheaper too - BTDT)

    I find that Dawg picks and Golden Gate picks are very dark...

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    If possible, you could try to get one of the german "Wolle" picks. They are made from some very soft and thick plastic and produce nearly no "pick-click" and a quite warm tone. They are used by most german classical players...
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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    A few years ago I made the rounds in Nashville and got to play a whole bunch of highly respected instruments, among then a Kimble, Heiden, Red Diamond and a Mowery. They were all great and were variations on a theme. Then I picked up a used Nugget A, which had been damaged and Mike had replaced the top and refinished it a few years before. It was still kind of beat up. And it was a Mandolin From Another Planet, with a dark, throaty, rich tone. How to describe? It was like Belgian dark chocolate and everything else was Hershey's Real Dark; it woofed like a 60-pound Burmese Mountain Dog to everything else yipping like a 15-pound Scotty. It became my baseline when someone says "dark tone, anyone?"

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    Mandola?
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    This is a bit tongue in cheek, but buy a Dawg pick and you'll need a flashlight when you play your Weber!

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    Default Re: Mandolins with darker tones.

    I understand that the oval hole Weber mandolins are the only ones now x-braced. I have used the original Brekke bridge on three mandolins to reduce brightness. I assume it is the additional mass of ebony that seems to help.

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