Has it been ten years already?

**recklessmando** · Aug-20-2005, 10:17pm

Bruce,

I think I read within the last month that the '71 SB tapes have resurfaced. I should get the facts straight before I say for sure, but it seems to me that Keith's brother found them on a boat the family owns. As usual I'm probably wrong, though.

**berkeleymando** · Aug-22-2005, 12:01pm

Reckless man do, this is described on the Dead's page that I linked to above...Dick's Picks #35 had what soundboard material they were able to recover from the boat. Unfortunately the 8/6/71 show is incomplete but the San Diego show from around the same period is complete.

**phynie** · Aug-22-2005, 12:12pm

mandoman! I play a bunch of dead on mandolin too. I also learned to play from the pizza tapes. I actually was a guitar player and realized I had a mandolin sitting in the closet. After I heard the pizza tapes, it was not longer in the closet. Now, the guitar is =)
My band plays a bunch of dead songs. Eyes, Scarlet/fire, franklin's, friend, deal, dark star, dire wolf, monkey, the list goes on. I say, why keep em' for between sets, let's just add a dead set =)

**Spruce** · Aug-22-2005, 12:27pm

"My band plays a bunch of dead songs. #...Dark star "

Anybody ever heard the single 45-version of "Dark Star"?

It's under 2 minutes long, is super-fast, sounds like a bluegrass tune, and has a banjo on it...

It, uhhhh, evolved over the years....

**Paul Kotapish** · Aug-22-2005, 12:41pm

Originally Posted by (Spruce @ Aug. 22 2005, 13:27)

Anybody ever heard the single 45-version of "Dark Star"?

It's under 2 minutes long, is super-fast, sounds like a bluegrass tune, and has a banjo on it...

That original "single" version or "Dark Star" is available as a bonus track on the remastered CD of Live/Dead and on the Golden Road box set of material from the Warner Brothers years. It's all there--just incredibly compressed and twitchy in the vein of that very first LP.

**AlanN** · Aug-22-2005, 12:42pm

Yep, heard that one, Bruce. I also had an 8-track tape (yikes) of Workingman's Dead, and the song list showed Uncle John's Damned (if this last word gets bleeted out, it sounds like Dammed, but has an 'n').

**Spruce** · Aug-22-2005, 1:06pm

"...compressed and twitchy..."

Good desription...
The first time I saw them was 3/26/68 at Melodlyland Theater, across from Disneyland opening for the Airplane....

They played the first album verbatim, and everything was short and to the point...
And very fast....

Melodyland was a theater-n-the-round, and they played on a revolving stage.....
Pretty interesting evening...

**phynie** · Aug-22-2005, 1:31pm

on a revolving stage?! weeeeee

That would be insane. how was the feedback portion of the show? Musta been bouncing all over the place. 360 degree phil bombs!!!!!

Needless to say, I'm jealous

**Spruce** · Aug-22-2005, 1:41pm

"how was the feedback portion of the show?"

No Feedback...
Just the tunes from the first LP....

I remember walking into the place and seeing tie-dyed Dual Showmans stacked everywhere onstage, and thinking "there's no way you need that much gear for just 2 bands!"...

Well, the Dead played, and they cleared the stage and then set up the Airplane's gear... #

During the Airplane's set, a beardless Garcia came and sat down in front of us, and I have never to this day seen an uglier human being.... #

The beard was a necessary addition....

**Jim M.** · Aug-22-2005, 1:52pm

And if you want to sign a petition to get Jerry on a stamp, check out:
Jerry Stamp

**phynie** · Aug-22-2005, 3:20pm

well spruce, you better add notes on your petition asking for the stamp to be of a bearded Jerry as opposed to that crazy hippy with the frizzy hair and monster chops.

**chirorehab** · Aug-22-2005, 3:58pm

That's a good one, Spruce......

I never heard -"Don't eat the apple pie!" - before!!!

Relix magazine has a great spread with stories about Jerry from Sandy Rothman, Blair Jackson, Peter Rowan, David Nelson & more.... A lot of great stories about the old days.....

Eric

**Spruce** · Aug-22-2005, 4:43pm

"you better add notes on your petition asking for the stamp to be of a bearded Jerry as opposed to that crazy hippy with the frizzy hair and monster chops."

I dunno...
This pic might make a good stamp, but kinda shows you what I was talking about...

**phynie** · Aug-22-2005, 6:19pm

I'm uncle sam, that's who I am! #
I like that picture, but he did tend to look a little more grizzly without the beard #

Anyway, it's hardly his face that sends me into the stratoshpere when I listen. #To me, Jerry's music walked the razor thin edge between genius and lunatic. But it always sounds like jerry. Just beautiful.

**ira** · Aug-23-2005, 10:47am

jerry's music and legacy are very much alive today. beside all of us who play the tunes (i do many dead and jerry g. tunes on mando and blues harp), i just went to the gathering of the vibes - a festival dedicated to keeping jerry's legacy alive- very well attended, the music was great (jamie m/jmp- were amazing!!!!! as were rre and many others), and they did a ten year tribute with dark star orchestra for 5 hours -1st set- peter rowan, david nelson and a bunch of other dudes with dso (lead guitarist for dso played mando for that whole set)- doing lots of oaitw stuff, then electric time- melvin seals, donna godchaux and other former jerriettes, fuzz from deep banana blackout did a killer new speedway boogie, and on it went- fantastic!
most of the music i listen to stems from my listening to the dead-and jerry- if not for them. i would prob be strictly a rock n roll guy- i don't know if i would be playing mando, listening to blues, jazz, bg, folk, jugband, etc..., and many bands who have melded genres would not be doing what they are doing. a pretty amazing legacy.

sorry for the ramble- a passionate subject.
peace all.