I see this coming up at a local estate auction. Looks unmolested and in the original case. Small scroll missing on the head stock. Any idea what it might bring? I might have to go to the bank..
I see this coming up at a local estate auction. Looks unmolested and in the original case. Small scroll missing on the head stock. Any idea what it might bring? I might have to go to the bank..
Hughes F-5 #1
Hughes A model #1
1922 Gibson A-2
1958 Gibson A-5
Nice, what auction? Whats the starting bid? I imagine less than 5G? Are there more photos?
Last edited by William Smith; Nov-27-2019 at 10:04am.
I was hoping to keep it under wraps!. Even a blind pig finds an acorn every now and then. I just don't know how high to bid to make it a deal. I see blonde and black topped ones around but not this color.
Hughes F-5 #1
Hughes A model #1
1922 Gibson A-2
1958 Gibson A-5
Very cool!
Timothy F. Lewis
"If brains was lard, that boy couldn't grease a very big skillet" J.D. Clampett
Don't worry buddy, I don't like oval holes but are there any F-hole mandolins or neat guitars? I'm very interested? If you could PM the site? I hope you get the Torch!
nothing else but a rogue mandolin and a newer martin shenandoah guitar.
Hughes F-5 #1
Hughes A model #1
1922 Gibson A-2
1958 Gibson A-5
Is the Shenandoah a Dreadnaught or OM style? How much? I played one a few years ago that I loved but the owner bought for his wife so wouldn't sell! "And guess what, its never been played but by me 10 years or so ago!-bummer!" What about the Rogue-is it solid wood? As I like to buy solid wood mandolins and rework them?
looks like a rosewood 2832, usually at this auction they start things at a low bid with no reserve.
Hughes F-5 #1
Hughes A model #1
1922 Gibson A-2
1958 Gibson A-5
Man I've looked everywhere, I want the Rosewood Martin if I can get it cheap Vernon, can you PM any hints?
i have never seen one of these in this color, but other than the finish it looks totally original. and that rectangular F4 case is a plus in terms of value. i have doubts regarding the playability of such a weathered old beast, but it might clean up nicely and, if the neck is not too bowed, would be worth bidding on. if the neck seems really warped and if there are serious cracks and/or repairs i would personally pass on it. others probably would not!
Thats a cool looking F4
The serial numbers not to far off from mine.
Hey Vernon.. that's one of only 2 I've seen like it. What happened there to my eyes is a refinish job at Gibson around 1915-1924 or so, as that would be a time that such a color and such a case could have happened. That's a pretty good serial for tone (I have one not far off), and honestly the loar style case and red finish make it rarer than rocking horse sh*t
Hopefully you get a steal, but that's rare and wonderful enough that a lot of folks would love to see it cleaned up and playable, so you'd probably make a profit if you wanted to sell
Whats the price on the Martin as of now? I've spent too long trying to find this auction so I've gave up!
Good luck, Vernon!
This is a fairly late 3 pointer, circa 1910. The finish appears to have been applied circa 1914 to 1919. It would be nice to see a picture of the back.
The rectangular case is a true rarity for the period.
I would think its retail value might be $5000 or more, depending on the condition of the back and the seller's attitude. I have seen 3 pointers advertised as high as 9, but that's probably quite a bit more than the market will bear.
The points made here about condition and possible refinish are important to consider, but no-one seems to be answering your question about the value. I am by no means an expert, but some searches can give you some ballpark reference numbers. Carter's doesn't have 3-points, but they do have a couple of teens F4's, and you can find sold listings on reverb here:
https://reverb.com/marketplace?query...&year_max=1915
If it were me, I'd reserve some dollars to take it to a luthier I trust for at least a checkup and a setup. If it needs frets, neck set and/or repairs, you could be looking at a good chunk of change. As danb said, hopefully you get a steal! I'll look forward to reading about.
I would be all over that one for a few reasons. I would be looking inside the top for a signature as well . Pretty cool piece .
I wonder what ever happened with this mandolin???
THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE JUST FOR YOUR SMILE!
Auction is coming up. I'll post updates.
Hughes F-5 #1
Hughes A model #1
1922 Gibson A-2
1958 Gibson A-5
Just got back from the auction, It went for 5500.00 plus 3% buyers premium and Va. state tax. I ran it up best I could but too rich for me. Traverse brace loose and warped, broken off/missing small scroll, 3rd point bone missing, hump at the fingerboard end/body joint, loose binding. The case was very nice. I believe it was a gibson retrofitted Loar case as it had 2 cutouts for the lower body point (and the cutout for the 3rd point), all factory done. Sure would have liked to had it.
Hughes F-5 #1
Hughes A model #1
1922 Gibson A-2
1958 Gibson A-5
Yeah, but not at that price. Lotsa restoration needed, and final result tone-and-playability-wise unknown. Not $5.5K+ worth, IMHO.
Allen Hopkins
Gibsn: '54 F5 3pt F2 A-N Custm K1 m'cello
Natl Triolian Dobro mando
Victoria b-back Merrill alumnm b-back
H-O mandolinetto
Stradolin Vega banjolin
Sobell'dola Washburn b-back'dola
Eastmn: 615'dola 805 m'cello
Flatiron 3K OM
I picked up a 1908 F 3 point (black top) a couple of year ago. Paid a bit less, didn't need any work, and it is a true HOSS --- even has some bark to it! These torch and wires are something pretty special. Had original leather case (falling apart) but otherwise I cleaned it up and it performs extremely well. Has a beautiful inlayed butterfly in the pickguard, Handels, some crazing on the back which is obviously maple. Seems to be a bit thinner, but wider than my '15 F4.
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