I'm about to splurge on a set of viola strings (cheaper than my last set, but more than my Helicore standby). I might go for it and finally give these a try for my mandolin. They're less than a cheap (but not painful) set of viola strings so YOLO, right? My question is... I JUST switched to an oval hole. It came with the same strings my starter mandolin came with, but I discovered and fell in love with the D'addario nickel-bronze strings on my previous f-hole instrument. Should I try strings I'm used to first to gauge how the string translates to the new instrument, or just go for it while I'm online ordering the viola strings?
"Does TI make any strings for an octave with a 22" scale? I know they make mandola strings but haven't seen any octaves listed."
Rdeane - I believe the top four strings of this $100 (yep, that's right!) lute string set will work with that 22" scale length. Quite the price though.
https://m.juststrings.com/thomastik-infeldlute.html
Last edited by Tim Logan; Oct-17-2020 at 9:53pm.
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Just Strings is a little confused. Those Liuto strings are for the 5 course mandocello invented and played and composed for by Raffaele Calace not for a lute. You may be correct, Tim, that the top 4 string pairs would work but to be real sure I would contact Thomastik directly and see what they suggest. That Juststrings set looks like it was a custom one but we don't know what scale length they were meant for. Besides you are also paying for that C course which are probably the most expensive strings in the set. They do make a mandola set for European mandola tuned octave GDAE but that is for 45cm/17-3/4" scale. You also have to make sure that the strings are long enough for your scale length. I would contact them to see what they recommend: info@thomastik-infeld.com
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RDeane/Jim - maybe scroll way down to Margoro's response on this thread- re the liuto strings - that's where I got his response when I asked about a 23" scale.
https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...homastik+liuto
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I get the impression that most posters are comparing TI flats to Daddario round 74s without getting involved in the Daddario flats,which are good strings at a much less flabbergasting price than the TI’s. It so happens that today was the day I decided to put on the TI Mediums I splurged on awhile ago out of curiosity, having used the Daddario flatwounds for years. Since the Daddarios on my MTO were still pretty good, I decided to experiment a bit while comparing. I put the TI’s on G, A and E and left the old Dadd D course on for awhile so I could compare them up close.
First thing I noticed about the TI’s was the cool wrappings at both ends of the G D and A. That’s gotta be a good sign for gripping, and indeed they were easy to put on and tune up. Second thing different was only discovered by reading the wrapper: the TI’s have a wound A, while the Dadds are plain A and E. The winding on the A’s is so fine that I did not believe for some time that this was for real—they just seem like plain steel! I’m sure a microscope would show the winding, I was eventually satisfied by close flashlight and reading-glasses examination. Plus running my thumbnail along them gives it away.
So in playing some tunes and exercises using the G and D a lot, I got a feel for the difference. The TI’s have a more complex sound, overtones I guess, while the Dadds (about 3 months old, still in good shape) have a more unified tone that is starting to get thuddy, certainly in comparison. Volume is about even. Physically, giving the old fingernail-test, and visually, you can tell that the TI’s are more fine-wound and more reductive of string squeak.
I also found I immediately was getting some buzzing on the TI E and A which had not been there before, and had to raise the action at the bridge—from about .05 to .07 at 12th. May not be done fussing with it yet. I think it’s weird that despite all the info on the TI packaging, it doesn’t state the string gauges which is pretty darn basic.
I will have to play the TI’s for awhile before I form a full opinion. I think it’s quite possible I might just stay with the Daddarios for my less expensive mandos and keep the TI’s on the Collings.
It’s fun to obsess over this exceedingly nerdy topic with my fellow enthusiasts. Cheers.
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I finally splurged on a set yesterday. Be interested to see how I like them.
I’m hoping to get a set of heavies for my MT from Santa this year. I’ve just about settled on La Bella as my favorite string, but I still want to try some TIs and some Straight Ups at some point.
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