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    Well if any of y'all still have Volvo lust, there's a guy up here who comes to car shows with a perfect '67 122S! Looks like it just came out of the showroom! If I totally lose my mind someday, I'll offer him a lot of $$ for it.

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    That is great: super rare that it drives upside down.

    I had to settle for a 144 when I got a small inheritance. Back then I lived in unhip Brooklyn and that car cost me a fortune every time I turned around. Also, I pared on the street and the tail-light lenses were stolen every other day, or so it seemed.
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    I didn't know that Volvo was yours Jim. Sorry.
    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them". These are the words of J. Garber.

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    Thanks, Mike, you got me off the hook. I hated the one 144 I owned. Always something electrical wrong with it.

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    The other design flaw of the 144 was the trunk lock. A vice grip on the trunk knob would snap the lock and open the trunk in two seconds. Hey, how did this get to be the Old Car Cafe? Back to the OP's theme? Sorry for the derailment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    The other design flaw of the 144 was the trunk lock. A vice grip on the trunk knob would snap the lock and open the trunk in two seconds. Hey, how did this get to be the Old Car Cafe? Back to the OP's theme? Sorry for the derailment...
    Oh I love old cars! Can't afford them, but they're way better than cars these days. Car nerd away!
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    When Gunner started this I thought, "Here we go, this could get ugly." But the MC shows us again we can have fun with a possibly contentious subject, and keep having fun, 7 pages strong. By the way I love "All" mandolins.

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    Volvo love!

    I was 15 years old. I had a paper route and mowed as many lawns as I could. Neighbor three houses down drove my Volvo. One day, another neighbor boy (his dad owned the NAPA shop) was working on the Volvo. I'm like, "Hey, what you doing?" He was changing out the king pin. (I'm like what's that?). Owner says, he's having neighbor boy fix the car so he could drive it to the junk yard. Dad says I can have it, so the neighbor gave it to me. I didn't even have a license.

    Over the months I made that car right. Dad didn't know what was what. My Sunday school teacher did! (He was the auto mechanics teacher for the Ford District office.). I had my Volvo all through high school, college and thought the start of my life as a field geologist. (regarding junk yards, yes, they were the saviors!).

    There was no part of that car I didn't fix. I drove that car for 9 years, until a drunk driver hit it in Seattle. I grew up in D.C. and went to college in Fort Collins.

    Too young for Fincastle. Did Culpeper and Culpeper-Warrington. In college, did Telluride. Those were all the '70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatt-dad View Post
    (regarding junk yards, yes, they were the saviors!)

    Fun memories!

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    They’re alive and well. There’s an industrial area in Wilmington that has 3 humongous lots, mostly 80’s and newer stuff. My ‘50 Chev’s seat cost me $26 bucks and 30 minutes of time. It came out of a ‘91 Chevy Sierra p/up. Thanks to the solid info from a few old car websites, the seat fits like it was made for the ‘50, stock riser height and all. Here’s a pic after reupholstery.
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    f-d - yep, the 544s always needed kingpins by the time you got them used. Those '60s Volvos were hard to kill - great engines and trannys, but quite a few annoying weak spots that were correctible once you knew about them. Mine all got pretty crappy gas mileage, even in good tune. I often drove around with nothing but musicians and instruments in them. (Note musical content.)
    mtucker - didn't think there were any more strip-it-yourself junkyards (liability issues, profitability since used parts got so expensive, etc.).

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    I personally really like old Volvo wagons (actually any wagon) but they're hard to find these days.
    Actually, by a funny coincidence, I'm now considering (strongly) the purchase of, (you guessed it) an F style mandolin. Lol. I might buy it, but it would have to be with money I saved up to buy (you may have guessed it) my first car....
    This is a mildly stressful decision lol
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    Well Gunnar you managed to get the thread back on track. What do you have in mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar View Post
    I personally really like old Volvo wagons (actually any wagon) but they're hard to find these days.
    Actually, by a funny coincidence, I'm now considering (strongly) the purchase of, (you guessed it) an F style mandolin. Lol. I might buy it, but it would have to be with money I saved up to buy (you may have guessed it) my first car....
    This is a mildly stressful decision lol
    So, as Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

    Get the best mandolin you can afford, and whose tone and playability speak to you, and don't allow subsidiary considerations to distract you.

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    Isn't that archaic Gibson F5 scroll is left over from Orville's goofy designs. Didn't they boot Orville from his own company for being too eccentric (that's another discussion)? Gibson stopped putting that scroll on guitars (like the L5) because the style O guitar was considered obsolete, due to competition from other manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgpete View Post
    mtucker - didn't think there were any more strip-it-yourself junkyards (liability issues, profitability since used parts got so expensive, etc.).
    Yup, 3 huge lots in nearby Wilmington alone. https://www.lkqpickyourpart.com/loca...f-262/recents/ As you can imagine demand is high with a population of 24 million people in SCAL (10 million in LA county alone). There are many many more of these yards out here. To answer your question BGP, you must provide positive ID (valid DL) and sign a liability waiver when you enter the yard. It’s paradise for a rat packer like me! Lol’s

    Sorry, back to regularly scheduled Gunnar OP mandolin content, although I’ve enjoyed these great stories and pics...TY gents!
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    I own 4 A style and a F2,The F has some sentimental value because it belonged to a friend that passed away and my wife bought it from his wife and gave to me. I don’t dislike F’s it is just that I can afford more A’s and THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE in sound.
    I think that the F5 became so popular with BG because of the longer neck which A’s just didn’t have when I started playing the raised fingerboard was rare on an A then also

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    I think F2s and F4s are beautiful looking instruments. I made one once. It sounded fabulous. I plan to make another one one day. It is so much easier to make the fingerboard sit on the soundboard without have to fit a fingerboard extender. They are my favourite looking scrolly mandolins. Even the brace is easy to fit. I wish that I had my plans with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Gellie View Post
    Well Gunnar you managed to get the thread back on track. What do you have in mind?
    I had been looking at a particular buckhorn in the classifieds, but it has sold already. Back to the old drawing board (I may buy a car first, but I can't do that until December.....)
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    My going-to-jams car for the last 15 years was my E320 Mercedes wagon. After 330,000 miles it got retired for a 4-door sedan.

    Loved my wagon!

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    My only contribution to this thread is visual. Draw your own conclusions....

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    In another life I worked at a Volvo/SAAB dealership (SCANDIA MOTORS) on the Monterey Peninsula.
    That began my Volvo and SAAB owbnership

    I have owned:

    Two 444s
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    3 122s
    1 122 Wagon 1967 rare with the "F" cylinder head
    1 1971 wagon w std trans
    1 1990 Wagon


    Three cheers for the "Flying Bricks" ! ! !

    I also stuffed a B1800 into one of my MG TDs.
    And another into a Thames van.


    And a 93 SAAB ex racing car of Ole Andersson, owner of the dealership and former Swedish Rally Champion and Husqvarna Motorcycle Ice Racing Champion.
    The SAAB had the Monte Carlo "SHRIKE" engine, full roll cage, Koni adjustable shocks, gumball still on the door and it was my daily driver.

    As to Mercedes - Benz.. as a former factory field rep (District Field Service Manager.. No. Calif, Nevada)
    The best Mercedes built (the opinion of most factory reps) was the 240 and the NON turbo 300 models, especially the 300 NON Turbo
    Wagons which were built in Bremen rather than Sindelfingen/ Stuttgart (sp). Far superior quality . These would be the late 70s early 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenf12 View Post
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    Nice! How’s the Duff ‘dola?

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    I like how the OP went from “I don’t like” to “I almost bought” a F-style.

    Ah MAS ...

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    "122 wagon 1967 rare with "F" cylinder head"

    That'll be the one with the scroll then?
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