Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Mandolin and two violins

  1. #1

    Default Mandolin and two violins

    Looking for some rep to play with two fabulous violinist friends of mine for an upcoming recital. We've had the idea of a triple violin concerto. And I checked IMSLP and found five pieces in the "for mandolin, 2 violins, and continuo" section. None of them particularly "grabbed" me on first glance, but I'll live with them for a bit. If you've can recommend anything, I'll be grateful!

  2. #2
    Registered User Martin Jonas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Northop, North Wales
    Posts
    6,199

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    If you're looking for mixed mandolin/violin repertoire, I am fond of this Sonata for mandolin, violin and basso by Carlo Arrigoni, which may work if you can adapt the basso part to be played by one of your violin friends. The PDF score is no longer at the source I had linked in my 2013 post, but it's here on the Cafe, as an attachment to an old post of mine (Link). Fun piece. Very theatrical.

    Another piece originally scored for mandolin and two violins (plus basso) is the mandolin concerto in G Major by Johann Adolph Hasse (1699-1783).

    Otherwise, maybe have a look at the second movement of Vivaldi's Concerto For 2 Violins in A minor, Op. 3 No. 8, RV 522 -- the orchestra plays in unison in that movement, so it reduces nicely to a trio. Also, Barbella's Sonata for two mandolins and basso may adapt well to your instrumentation and is a great fun piece.

    Martin

  3. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Martin Jonas For This Useful Post:


  4. #3

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    Beginning with virtuosic flourish at 1:05, Artemandoline play Arrigoni's trio sonata for mandolino and violin with the neapolitan mandolin taking the violin part. I hope it amuses.




    The Hasse concerto is lovely and popularly recorded. Of course, in designating "mandolin" (or similar), Hasse, Arrigoni, Vivaldi, Hoffmann, etc. were referencing a lute-like instrument (as pictured on the viewers' left in the video above) tuned [g,] b, e', a', d", g". Still, their mandolin music is often interpreted on modern instruments with modern tuning.

    I'm not certain where you'd go with continuo parts or middle voices, Paul, but many 18th-c. concerti for Neapolitan mandolin and strings could be taken with single violins playing respective parts from the score and may even be pretty satisfying if one of the violins realizes basic basso harmonies during solo passages: e.g., Barbella, Cantone (I really like the slow movement from this one), Caudioso, Cecere, Conforto, Giuliano/i, Lamberti, etc. . . . Or, as Martin alludes, trio sonatas with the additional violin fleshing out the harmony in higher-than-basso registers.

  5. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Eugene For This Useful Post:


  6. #4

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    Also, flutists are nuts for playing together in the absence of others. Thus, there's a lot of flute-trio literature out there, some of which might be effectively realized by your proposed ensemble.

  7. The following members say thank you to Eugene for this post:


  8. #5

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    . . . Or realize your lifelong dream to compose! . . . ?

  9. The following members say thank you to Eugene for this post:


  10. #6
    Registered User Martin Jonas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Northop, North Wales
    Posts
    6,199

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
    Beginning with virtuosic flourish at 1:05, Artemandoline play Arrigoni's trio sonata for mandolino and violin with the neapolitan mandolin taking the violin part.
    Thanks Eugene -- I really like that interpretation by Artemandoline, although I only came across it after recording my own quite different (and considerably less virtuosic) version of the Arrigoni trio sonata. It does confirm, though, what I said about this piece being very theatrical!

    Martin

  11. The following members say thank you to Martin Jonas for this post:

    Eugene 

  12. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    1,291

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    "... if you can adapt the basso part to be played by one of your violin friends."

    "... and may even be pretty satisfying if one of the violins realizes basic basso harmonies during solo passages".

    According to Paul Sparks, "An Introduction to the 18th Century Repertoire of the Neapolitan Mandolin" (Plucked String Inc, 1999), p. 16, the basso part in trios for two mandolins/violins and basso, such as Barbella, is meant to be played on a viola an octave higher than written. If one of the violinists is adept at reading from the bass clef, this would also work, except for passages on the C string of the viola, which would need to be transposed up.
    Robert A. Margo

  13. The following members say thank you to margora for this post:

    Eugene 

  14. #8

    Default Re: Mandolin and two violins

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Jonas View Post
    It does confirm, though, what I said about this piece being very theatrical!
    It does indeed!
    Last edited by Eugene; Oct-14-2020 at 2:10pm.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •