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    Default Pretty odd, not so pretty

    Currently on SGW. Photos not good, but seems somehow not quite rustic homebrew. Fretboard may have pasted on magazine print, or something.
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    Default Re: Pretty odd, not so pretty

    This is a better example! A Regal "reverse scroll" mandolin.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920S-REGAL...QAAOSwnLhfjKWT

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    Yes, very common budget guitar as NickR notes made by Regal and sold under a bunch of labels or no label at all. Here is the design patent by Frank Kordick in 1914.
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    Known to some as a 'Smurf hat' I believe
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    If Bill Monroe had seen a reverse scroll Regal in that barbershop window, we would be idolizing them, and making fun of an F5 headstock looking like the silhouette of a big nosed guy with a cowlick.
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    Jim, I like the "crown" tailpiece in that patent application. I wonder if once they were manufactured if they ever sported such a tailpiece? More likely, something very cheap like in the original photo although the more expensive versions did have the cloud type!

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    When Frank Kordick patented the reverse scroll design that tailpiece was common on some L&H mandolins.
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard500 View Post
    Currently on SGW. Photos not good, but seems somehow not quite rustic homebrew. Fretboard may have pasted on magazine print, or something.
    Any guesses?Click image for larger version. 

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    As stated, it was a Regal design and some were much more deluxe than others.
    "It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
    --M. Stillion

    "Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    When Frank Kordick patented the reverse scroll design that tailpiece was common on some L&H mandolins.
    Agreed. Pretty much on all the Washburn line mandolins, rarely ever on the reverse-scroll mandolins. Here is fancy one from a top-of-the-line Washurn style 85 bowlback from the 1890s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonydxn View Post
    Known to some as a 'Smurf hat' I believe
    You are correct, sir!

    I believe I have seen listed as that in some old Regal catalogs from the late '20s or early '30s. Jim Garber might have a copy of one of those catalog pages.

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    Thread title reminds me of Campilongo's tune "Awful Pretty, Pretty Awful"


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