If playing fret 7,5,3,1,0 on the high E string, would you fret them finger 4,3,2,1 or 3,2,1,1 ?
I use 3,2,1,1 today but have trouble moving finger 1 from 3 to 1 fast enough.
Thank You for your time.
Poul
If playing fret 7,5,3,1,0 on the high E string, would you fret them finger 4,3,2,1 or 3,2,1,1 ?
I use 3,2,1,1 today but have trouble moving finger 1 from 3 to 1 fast enough.
Thank You for your time.
Poul
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Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
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It would depend on the particular piece of music - where is the next phrase, what is the articulation, etc.
Typically I'd use 1-2-3-4 (or 4-3-2-1 if descending), but other factors could indicate 1-1-2-3 (3-2-1-1), if the passage before was above 1st position...or I wanted a slide from the finger 1 note to the other finger 1 note.
It's the Tarantella starting from the 3. fret going up to 7,5,3,1,0 next 5,3 on A
Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
Hi. I'm not completely following your melody approach, but for that fingering I would definitely say 4-3-2-1. That's all in the first position.
I play this in Am, on the E and A strings:
E string: 5 5 0 0 5 5 0 0 | 1 1 131 0 ... 0 0 | 0
A string: 5 5 5 5 3 3 | 2 2 232 0
Those are frets, not finger placements. I hope that makes sense. It's very easy this way.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. - Dennis Miller
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You are in the start or verse. I'm describing an interlude towards the end.
Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
OK, I think I see. I would still go with 4-3-2-1.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. - Dennis Miller
Furthering Mandolin Consciousness
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Hi Poul,
I use 4 - 2 - 1 - 1 or 4 -2 3 - 1
check out Keith Harris's book and you'll know why.
Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
I must be missing the point here. Do all the notes have to be played on the E string? It seems to me that the best and easiest way to play the sequence of notes would be to play in the second position.
Play 7-5-3 on the E string, using fingers 3,2,1 and leave the first finger planted on the 3rd fret. Then play 8-7 on the A string, fingers 4,3. This can be played fast and sounds good with the G note ringing while the last two notes are played. I am not familiar with the particular piece being played, but I often prefer to play the 8th fret on the next string instead of the 1st fret.
Using this technique may be fine for some pieces, not for others. Learning to use all 4 fingers and playing 4321 from the 7th fret is something you need to learn and be able to easily do anyway. After getting it down decide for each piece which way is a more convenient way to play it.
Last edited by pops1; Jan-06-2021 at 11:35am.
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Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
Poul, since you directly ask for tips, have noted that your approach is too slow, and don't necessarily have access to any given physical book, I recommend you work on this resource for Four Finger Closed Position playing (abbreviated as FFcP) on mandolin. The problem you describe is even on the first webpage of exercises, found here:
http://jazzmando.com/ffcp.shtml
Your situation is covered by the 2nd Position exercise shown.
Here's the index page, should you want to pursue it beyond this particular situation. I work them on CGDA mandola and GDAE octave mandolin, so you can definitely master them at the shorter mandolin scale length.
http://jazzmando.com/ffcp_studies.shtml
There is no magic solution of instant mastery, but practicing even just that first page will solve the problem once you get it down, so I hope you decide to put in the time. If so, good luck!
OK, been wrestling with this, and I think I've figured it out. Searched for sheet music on the web, found this, not quite complete - but enough.
The sequence mentioned in Post #3 appears in bars 44-45. Am I correct that that is the segment you're talking about? If so, I would unhesitatingly play this thus:
E string: fingers 4-3-2-1-0 on frets 7-5-3-1-0
A string: fingers 3-2 on frets 5-3
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. - Dennis Miller
Furthering Mandolin Consciousness
Finders Keepers, my duo with the astoundingly talented and versatile Patti Rothberg. Our EP is finally done, and available! PM me, while they last!
Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
Kentucky KM-805..........2 Hora M1086 Portuguese II(1 in car)
Hora M1088 Mandola.....
Richmond RMA-110..... .Noname Bearclaw
Pochette Franz Janisch...5 Pocket............Alfredo Privitera pocket
Puglisi Pocket 1908........Puglisi 1912.......Puglisi 1917
3 Mandolinetto ..............C.Garozzo
1 Mandriola...................Cannelo G. Mandriola...Böhm Waldzither 1921
Johs Møller 1945............Luigi Embergher Studio 1933
Marma Seashell back......Luigi Embergher 5bis 1909
I use fingers 1, 2, and 3 the most as well, but have little problem using 4. The size of my hand and fingers lead me to roll my wrist a little in order to stretch to fret 7, but it's easy enough. The rest of the sequence is well within first position for me and requires no further special attention. That slight adjustment is a small price to pay for the ease of playing the rest of the figure.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. - Dennis Miller
Furthering Mandolin Consciousness
Finders Keepers, my duo with the astoundingly talented and versatile Patti Rothberg. Our EP is finally done, and available! PM me, while they last!
take a lock at Keith´s page
http://www.mandolin-lessons.com
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