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    The body reminds me of some Vega made mandolins post-WW2. I don't know if those Kluson tuners are original but would mean it was late 1940s at the oldest. Of course, it may have been subject to some work at some point.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Weymann-2-p...IAAOSwe5FgYl55

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    It looks handmade to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickR View Post
    The body reminds me of some Vega made mandolins post-WW2. I don't know if those Kluson tuners are original but would mean it was late 1940s at the oldest. Of course, it may have been subject to some work at some point.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Weymann-2-p...IAAOSwe5FgYl55

    It says right in the listing and description that it is a Weymann 2-point mandolin.

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    Now the listing says it's a Stahl as well. I personally like the poor man's fern inlay on the headstock.

    That is a nasty crack under the tuners.
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    Weymann stopped making instruments in the mid to late 1930s and started to buy in and label third party made instruments. The last Weymann branded mandolin- made in about 1939, I saw, was made by Kay and 1939 is the year, reckoned to be the end of Weymann. If this mandolin is original- and it may not be, it has late 1940s Kluson tuners and its body is also reminiscent of Regal two point mandolins- so it could be handmade from various sources of items. I don't know. Somebody, has presumably told the seller it might be a Stahl but I get the impression the seller does not know its origin- and he's not alone. Anyway, it's not a Kay!

    Edit: "I personally like the poor man's fern inlay on the headstock."

    I think it is some kind of code- crack it and you might know who made it!

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    Two people think it is worth at least $150, FWIW. Peghead does have the Weymann shape, but so did many others. The finish looks messed with, in addition to the repaired peghead previously mentioned.

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    It is not a Weymann or a Stahl. Probably small shop maker. BTW I have an upper end stradolin clone that is branded Weymann.
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    It looks like a soprano Octafone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickR View Post
    ...Edit: "I personally like the poor man's fern inlay on the headstock."

    I think it is some kind of code- crack it and you might know who made it!
    There's one thing for sure, the person owned a drill and had access to a pearl supplier.
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    Doesn't the back looked carved?
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    Except for the headstock shape, "open book" style and vaguely like Weymann—I really don't see any connection to Weymann. As NickR noted, probably closer to Vega but not really either. The points on Vegas are more rounded, the soundhole wider and headstock different

    The workmanship overall looks pretty good though the scratches on the back of the headstock and the pearl circle inlays look a little sloppier and could have been done on someone later who attempted to repair that headstock crack. Also, that neck button looks a little strange with the binding ending right before the button.

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    It looks to me as if there may have been a glued-on pickguard at one point.

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    Hi all
    This is my mandolin. I am new to mandolins. I bought this from an elderly gent who had for 50 years.
    He said he purchased used from a violin player.
    Was this the truth? The mando was poorly refinished. Probably by someone other than the builder.
    It looks like nice wood was used. I did the usual google search to see if there was any thing that resembled it.
    The open book headstock was my first clue. My first guess was Weymann. No serial numbers or labels are apparent.
    The back and top are arched. I was going to work on it myself. But quickly realized Its not in my abilites.
    I appreciate for any feedback.
    So rather than sitting on it I have put it up for sale. I was looking at this website to see if I could find some info on it.
    Then this thread appeared. I have no idea on value. I guess its worth what someone is willing to pay. I have had several emails on it.
    Nice to meet you all.
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    It did have a pickguard.

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    Was the pickguard elevated like on this Vega- the closest instrument I could think of as similar to your mandolin?
    https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/view...90051f0d56e89b

    As you can read, the mandolin has not been identified. I think the lowest of the dot markers- the small one- and the the dots on the headstock are indicative of some form of amateur activity. Whether the headstock shape has been altered- making it bigger than it was, is open to conjecture. As I mentioned to start- those Kluson tuners were first made in 1947 but tuners can be replaced over time- the type seen on your mandolin debuted in 1956.. Getting an exact ID may be impossible, I am afraid but it is an interesting mandolin and with some effort could be a good instrument.

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