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    Default High carbon plain strings for E and D pairs?

    It seems to me that when you buy different material string sets of the same gauge and make, you get the same plain string pairs in all sets. So, if you take D'Addario strings in 11-40, then PB or 80/20 or Monel sets come with the same unwound A and E sets but different material D and G sets. Is that correct? Last time I looked, D'Addario also sell single 'NYXL' extra high carbon plain guitar strings designed for long bends and longer acoustic life on electric guitars. I think they also recommend them for plain strings on acoustic guitars (?). I believe other makers also sell higher carbon plain strings. Has anyone here tried using these higher carbon strings as the A and E sets on a mandolin, and if so, do they work well?

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    My favorite strings for vintage bowlbacks are Dogal Calace roundwound RW92 and 92b. I believe they are carbon steel.
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    Carbon steel (without carbon it wouldn't be steel) Core wires are standard for music wire.. Fe + C.
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    That's all true, but the strings I'm talking about different.They're higher carbon than regular strings, which makes them tougher. I've used them on guitars, and you can bend notes further without breaking, or tune them higher, than regular carbon steel strings. Here's one example:

    https://www.daddario.com/products/gu...c-guitar/nyxl/

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    I would take marketing statements, particularly rewarding alloy and composition, with a grain of salt.

    Generally higher carbon content is harder, more brittle and less tough. Small amounts of alloy can affect that significantly. Music wire is generally mostly a high carbon steel 0.70 to 1.00 percent with 0.2 to 0.6 percent Manganese. Manganese generally imparts a work hardening property which makes the steel harder and more brittle as it is used. There may be other alloys included to add the toughness but it is hard to tell without a specific alloy number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlM View Post
    I would take marketing statements, particularly rewarding alloy and composition, with a grain of salt.
    Sure - but I've used them and found the marketing claims for these strings to stand up well enough in practice. I was always popping the .009 octave G on my 25.5" 12 string till I got hold of those. I then tried tuning it in 5ths and found that I could go to G above the standard guitar top E without breaking the string...so often.

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    If they were offering up a standard AISI-SAE number ..
    a person could look it up and know the % of the various Minerals Fe C Mn P S etc.. are in the steels..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandroid View Post
    If they were offering up a standard AISI-SAE number ..
    a person could look it up and know the % of the various Minerals Fe C Mn P S etc.. are in the steels..

    Not as good a mechanic as my father was..
    Technical details? Strings? No, they just tell you how good they are, like that's all musicians understand

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