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    Looks like a nice one? Would be worth checking out if you're in the neighbourhood.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/402792836275?ul_noapp=true

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    I kind of wish I had a reason to go to Cleveland!
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    It will be fun to see what this one goes for. If the neck had work, you'd think it could have been touched up a little better but not too late. Looks like a '01.
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    Kind of wondering how that ended up in a "pawn shop"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Albert View Post
    Kind of wondering how that ended up in a "pawn shop"...
    For sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim simpson View Post
    It will be fun to see what this one goes for. If the neck had work, you'd think it could have been touched up a little better but not too late. Looks like a '01.
    Made in Montana. Didn't Gibson move mandolin division to Nashville in '96 or so?
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    This is label from that ad. How is it read/dated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Jordan View Post
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    This is label from that ad. How is it read/dated?
    I believe its a 1990.
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    The last digit is the decade of manufacture, and the first digit is the year of the decade.
    So 0283109 is 1990.

    The numbering system on mandolins is different from the system used on guitars.

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    Signed by Steve Carlson -- I'd say this is a stone bargain.

    How it ended up in the pawn shop is that someone probably brought it in and pawned it, and got maybe $5-600 on it. When the customer didn't come back, the pawnbroker put it up for sale. I'm kinda surprised it's priced so low; Elderly listed this '96 for $5,250/.

    Even if this one needs work, I can't see why it wasn't listed for upwards of $3K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allenhopkins View Post
    Signed by Steve Carlson -- I'd say this is a stone bargain.

    How it ended up in the pawn shop is that someone probably brought it in and pawned it, and got maybe $5-600 on it. When the customer didn't come back, the pawnbroker put it up for sale. I'm kinda surprised it's priced so low; Elderly listed this '96 for $5,250/.

    Even if this one needs work, I can't see why it wasn't listed for upwards of $3K.
    I guess the bidders will decide what the final price is. It had an opening bid of $1000 and is getting close to 3K now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Albert View Post
    Kind of wondering how that ended up in a "pawn shop"...
    Not everyone is doing so well out of the current economy. There's a lot of selling going on that we don't see.
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    In the last 15 minutes of the auction, it was holding steady at around $3k.
    In the last 15 seconds, it shot up to $4k, then ended at $6800.
    The winning bidder only bid once with 3 seconds left. Always an effective strategy to bypass the bidding war.

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    In the last 30 seconds priced jumped from $3028 to $6800, which was the final selling price! NFI. (I wish my eBay auctions would do that!)

    Three days ago the seller added that he would accept returns if not 100% satisfied. Smart move.

    I'm just a country boy, but $3028 sounded like a great deal, whereas $6800 is starting to sound like retail......

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    KC beat me to it.....great minds think alike!

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    Wow! Someone really wanted it. Hopefully for the seller, it's a real bid. I lucked out when I bought my 81 F5L on Ebay, I wrote the seller and made an offer even though it wasn't listed as "best offer", the seller accepted it. It's my favorite out of the brood.
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    Does anyone remember the time a buyer bid $15k for an F4 on eBay and systematically took the world of vintage Gibson oval holes into a whole other price range?
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    It sure seems like a lot for that mandolin (especially not being able to see and play it in person) unless someone knows something about that mandolin or has some attachment to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandobar View Post
    Does anyone remember the time a buyer bid $15k for an F4 on eBay and systematically took the world of vintage Gibson oval holes into a whole other price range?
    I remember that. It was around the same time that Mike Compton had his 1927 Gibson Snakehead A Junior for sale for $6,000.

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    It was a Carlson-signed instrument, but had some nasty finish problems on the scroll (as seen in the auction pics).

    I thought 6,800 was about 2,000 "too high" for that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Albert View Post
    It was a Carlson-signed instrument, but had some nasty finish problems on the scroll (as seen in the auction pics).

    I thought 6,800 was about 2,000 "too high" for that one...
    I checked the listing.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/40279283627...5d6000xlw00004

    The seller relisted it shorty after the end of the auction, and the relist shows sold for $4500.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Gibson-...p2047675.l2557

    Not sure what happened there. Shill bidding to get the price high, and then a fixed offer at a much lower price? Certainly moved very quickly to a relist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazz Jass View Post
    Not sure what happened there. Shill bidding to get the price high, and then a fixed offer at a much lower price? Certainly moved very quickly to a relist.
    Thanks for the follow-up. I missed the relisting and sale. 20 years ago shill bidding was common on eBay, basically get an "out of town" friend to bid up an item and when the auction is over, tell the second-highest bidder the "winner" backed out and you can offer it to them, if they are still interested. Now, eBay has some failsafes in place to prevent this, but not sure how well they work. Shill bidding was rampant among the vintage guitar community when eBay first started. Nowadays, I think at the very least a red flag comes up on eBay's end when it is apparent that something like this is going on. Certainly, if it happens more than once with the same parties selling and bidding. I think after so many non-payments, the shill's account at the very least gets "dinged" by eBay.

    FWIW, my "buddy" a fairly well-known vintage guitar dealer for 30+ years, actually used his wife's eBay account to shill bid on his own listings FROM THE SAME COMPUTER! Needless to say, eBay noticed and stopped this immediately and he was suspended from doing business on eBay -- but actually, it wasn't for very long -- maybe 2-3 weeks, IIRC.

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