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    Default Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    One of the two cavaquinho variants played in keroncong music from Indonesia. I always forget which one is the cak and which one is the cak. Quite rare to see, but not worth that price, especially in it's condition.

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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    Turns out this is the cak with 4 steel strings in 3 courses (in the centre in video), and the cuk is the 3 nylon stringed one (on the right in the video). The letter c is pronounced as a 'ch' sound in Bahasa Indonesia.

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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    Interesting take on the zero fret. Looks like a matchstick.

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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray(T) View Post
    Interesting take on the zero fret. Looks like a matchstick.
    Well spotted! I thought it was just the zero fret had come out of it's slot, but it does look like something else. Close-up from listing:
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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    It does indeed look like a matchstick. Wonder how that affects open strings' ability to ring.

    The strings on the "bass" ... are they really supposed to be that slack? Never seen that before.
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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    Looks like a bit of a lash-up. Is that an actual zero fret lurking between the matchstick and the nut? Perhaps the nut was replaced with something too high and they inserted the matchstick for unbeknown reason?

    As for strings, Iíve no idea how it is tuned but they all look the same gauge to me

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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    Good eye. They both look to be at a bit of a slant - so not permanently affixed. Or if so, not well done. Would affect tuning, at least somewhat. Unless not in contact with strings, in which case, why is it there? Note that the one being played in the video has something there, too.

    Wonder about its purpose?

    Thanks for bringing this up, Jo. I'm amazed at the number and variety of musical instruments around the world.
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    Default Re: Unusual rare keroncong cak/cuk

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray(T) View Post
    ...Iíve no idea how it is tuned but...
    d"d", g', b' or D5 D5, G4, B4
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