The trippy video is what got my attention because of its similarities to a CAVE video.
The trippy video is what got my attention because of its similarities to a CAVE video.
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I love Mandolin Orange and always will as long as they maintain their musical identity. I guess I'm in the same camp as Mike R. on the name change thing. I don't really get it but frankly it could just be a generational thing (or agents, or friends ,or managers or record labels managers) everybody throwing's in their 2 cents. Not sure The Rolling Stones would be thinking too much about that.
After listening to the new song/video a few times, I'm loving it. I've been a Mandolin Orange fan for quite a few years now, and am good with the new name. I like it, and am looking forward to hearing more. After recently getting Andrew Marlin's new instrumental albums, I'm just so impressed with how talented and prolific he is. The music and talent of the musicians he plays with are just so good. Of course, Emily is also an incredible singer and musician. This new music continues to show how talented Andrew and Emily are. It's awesome to watch them grow, and I look forward to what they do in the future. By the way, I highly recommend listening to the new song with headphones. The recording and mix are incredible!
Got to see and meet (!) them up close & personal 6-8 years ago in Morristown NJ, at a backyard concert in the garden of a local museum! I'll still be a fan regardless, but agree that the name change puzzles me... which maybe just indicates that I'm in the more, uhmm, "mature" demographic!
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I rank them among the greats, along with Simon and Garfunkel, Peter, Paul and Mary and others.
Is it possible that the artists felt somewhat pigeon holed or limited by the previous name? The new name is not as limiting or as descriptive of what is to be expected.
For example, when a name like "Guitar Gary" or "The Jazzy Gents" or "The Bluegrass Buckaroos" or "Blue Bass Guitar" or "Fiddlin' Fellow" etc.. appears on a concert bill, a person doesn't have to use too much (or as much) imagination about what is to be expected. It's like being told what to expect of an experience before experiencing it. Perhaps a less obvious name is more thought provoking??
For the record, I like both names and have nothing but respect for the artists. I have nothing to go by besides the statement they put out about the name change. Mandolin Orange was/is obviously a play on words. Also, I love the mandolin.
I’m reminded of a North Carolina old time band that call themselves Hard Drive. They have a cd out called RAM. Good luck trying to find them using Google. Or another local band that had to change their name twice because they found out some other acts already used the names. Somebody even started using the name Mando Mafia as his handle on youtube, (and YT refused to make him change it, and he ignored me.)
Band names are tricky things...I wish Watchhouse all the best with their new name.
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They've already made the change on wikipedia, with a redirect. And since the name has been changed, previous activity is ascribed to the new name. So, for example, a 2019 TV appearance is credited to the new name, even though it was made under the old name. Someone adjusted their discography to include a column entitled "Era," and their six previous albums are listed in the "Mandolin Orange" era. Presumably soon there will appear a "Watchhouse" era to accommodate the new single/video and forthcoming releases. That sort of thing.
They made these changes April 21st, same day as the announcement. This discussion seems moot.
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YesQuote Originally Posted by Jeff Budz View Post
I’m sad to see them change the name on account of mandolins and the color orange are two of my favorite things. I thought the name was brilliant and unique. Watch house as a band name is kind of “meh” if you ask me.
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Stay untrippy and I didn't see where whoever produced it did even a mediocre job, listening here on my laptop I could barely even hear Emily nor would I care to listen to Art Blakey doing trippy fusion rock jazz... MO is one of my favorites and if I don't hear any new things that move me I'll just keep listening to my extremely good old/ole MO playlist I have
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Since the old MO is going in a different direction (more power to them), if you are loking for your acoustic duo fix, you might give these guys a try:
https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/c...-Troubles-Away
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I've always been a fan and they've always been great but Andrew has really grown. I think he's a genius level composer. He's also exploring a more emotional type of music. Geniuses are restless I guess. I think the new name better fits what they've been up to lately.
Following Chris Cravens' lead, here's another duo to check out featuring mandolin and bouzouki:
https://janandjon.bandcamp.com/album...urns-jon-doran
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It gets them a whole line by themselves on festival posters. Watchhouse (formerly Mandolin Orange) while Sam Bush has to share a line.
https://www.musicfestivalwizard.com/...omp-fest-2021/ scroll down to see the poster.
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I'm glad to know that the Covid pandemic will be over by September 15, 2021......
Sure, but they're only on line #4.
Not so. But some festivals are trying to plan ahead on the assumption that conditions will be safe enough for large gatherings if people adopt safe behavior patterns. I have no idea how they are able to have that much confidence at this point, but planning far ahead is part of festival coordination. Always has been, always will be.
For instance, Newport Folk Festival is spread over two consecutive three-day sessions, presumably to accommodate social distancing in their finite audience area. I have my doubts this will work, but I give them credit for trying.
I would note, though, the conspicuous absence of some major festivals in the Wizard's listings. Grey Fox, Philadelphia, Rhythm & Roots - still too soon for them. One listing I'm happy to see is Green River. That usually takes place the third weekend of July, same as Grey Fox. I used to have to make some tough decisions, and/or drive back and forth (they're an hour and a half apart). This year they've pushed it back to the last weekend of August, which makes it fit into my travel plans much better. As long as it doesn't conflict with Philly. Oh, and look who's playing this year. Should I tell them?
Not to worry, actually. The festival has already updated its poster. It's the wizard who needs to gaze again into his crystal ball.
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I hate seeing WatchHouse (formally Mandolin Orange) posted. Hell if you want to change the name then change it and drop the formally was mess....I'll keep them listed as Mandolin Orange!
Duly noted. Because it's really up to you what they do, right?
Listen up. People who make their living through public performance tend to develop a following as they become progressively successful. They tour the country, perhaps other countries, playing to audiences in far-flung locales. These appearances must be booked well in advance, in order for everything associated with them to get all set, to put in place complex scheduling and travel logistics for the people in their employ, for the venues at which they will be playing, and for their audience.
In order to accommodate the impact that a name change of a popular touring act will have on previously planned performances, a period of time in which the name change is announced at every venue will be necessary, to ensure that everyone, or at least as many people as possible, who are interested in the performer(s) will be as informed as possible about the name change. No fan should be denied the opportunity to go to a show because they hadn't heard about something like this. Those of us who have seen this notice here may consider themselves to be among the better-informed concerning this. This news may not yet have reached all concerned. As I posted earlier, one festival to which they were booked before the name change has had to change their poster, while the website where I had first seen this poster as part of its publicity had not yet done so. This sort of rolling update could take a while. It behooves people who already know about this to have some patience while this transitional period plays out.
It also seems pointless. My vote would be for the thread to be closed. It's served its purpose.They made these changes April 21st, same day as the announcement. This discussion seems moot.
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No I want to keep B oching about it!
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I've made my viewpoint clear. Repeatedly. This last point was not an opinion, it was informative. I don't know what about it you object to, as you quoted the entire post. I don't know why people do that. It doesn't do anything, except burn up a bit of storage space on the server.
Again, this thread was begun with an announcement. What Andrew and Emily want to do is up to them, no one else. If they had wanted input, they could have asked for it. They did not; it's safe to assume they do not. All they were doing was announcing the change and explaining it.
They made their decision long ago, and announced it two weeks ago. It's their decision, and it's final. The discussion is moot, pointless, and purposeless. That is my opinion, though it's goshdarned close to fact. But I'm just one out of 53,262 members. I have no idea how much my voice or vote matters. Go ahead with whatever you want to do.
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