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    Here's my latest oud. This is a new shape I am calling the 'Shahed' model, which is designed to bring out certain harmonics after analysing the spectral analysis, and also be more comfortable to hold (the latter of course more subjective based on body shape!)

    I am a luthier specialising in historical and world stringed instruments. You can see more info at my website.

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    That looks quite lovely and I like the shape.

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    Nice and I am sure I asked this before but how are they tuned? I can't remember the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bertotti View Post
    Nice and I am sure I asked this before but how are they tuned? I can't remember the answer.
    Oud tunings vary by national style and such. The most common tunings are, low to high :

    Arabic: CFADGC

    Turkish: actual pitch (Turkish music is often written transposed) C# F# B E A D

    The top 4 courses are always in 4ths; the 2 lower courses can be tuned various ways depending on the player and the piece of music, but the above are very common tunings.

    Turkish ouds are usually shorter scale than Arabic ouds and tend to be tuned a step higher; there are also Arabic tunings with a high F 1st course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bertotti View Post
    Nice and I am sure I asked this before but how are they tuned? I can't remember the answer.
    This oud is tuned CGADGC. Same as the standard tuning mentioned above, but the G drone works quite well for a lot of Persian/Iranian music.
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    You always set a high standard for you instruments, Jo. The thought of spectral analysis to help determine an instrument's shape is fascinating. I have seen experiments using fine sand on a soundboard which was secured over a loudspeaker assembly then notes of different pitches were played through the speaker and the sand adopted particular wave patterns. Bracing patterns could be studied in this way. I seem to remember this was called a Chladni plate(?) Is spectral analysis a more modern development of this idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusepo View Post
    This oud is tuned CGADGC. Same as the standard tuning mentioned above, but the G drone works quite well for a lot of Persian/Iranian music.
    That is one of the alternate tunings; I use that for certain maqamat; also DGADGC.

    Top strings stay at ADGC; another tuning I've used is BEADGC, all 4ths.

    It all depends on the piece of music and which if any open string low notes one needs.

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    Here's a couple of short improvisations to show the sound:


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    Gorgeous sound on this one, Jo. Thanks for posting this!
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    Ya yea very nice! Is it my old eyes or are only some strings a double course? Do any have triple courses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bertotti View Post
    Ya yea very nice! Is it my old eyes or are only some strings a double course? Do any have triple courses?
    No triple courses. All double apart from the lowest (bam teli), which is single.
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    Thanks. I saw an instrument I thought might be an iud that had some triples. I wondered what it was. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bertotti View Post
    Thanks. I saw an instrument I thought might be an iud that had some triples. I wondered what it was. Thanks
    A lute-bodied instrument with some tripled strings? The Turkish saz comes to mind...
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    I’ll google that thanks for the heads up. Have you built those also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusepo View Post
    A lute-bodied instrument with some tripled strings? The Turkish saz comes to mind...
    The first course is often triple...not all of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bertotti View Post
    I’ll google that thanks for the heads up. Have you built those also?
    Nope, I've never built one. And yes, only the highest course is tripled.
    I am a luthier specialising in historical and world stringed instruments. You can see more info at my website.

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