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    Question Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    I have been playing mando a little over a year but have been playing acoustic for decades. I am not a trained musician. I have a group of prog rock musicians that I fell into. They have asked me to play the chill part of this (about 3:19 in it sounds like banjo to me) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UHwkfhwjsk
    I have looked at guitar tabs for this. They call for Fmaj7 and Cmaj7 which are easy to transpose to mando. However, there is a chord missing that I do not understand - Dadd4add9. I have no idea what that means. Any help on this chord on mando and also what it means would be greatly appreciated

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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Does this mean d-major and add the 4th (G) and the 9th (E)?

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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Quote Originally Posted by jfishstik View Post
    Does this mean d-major and add the 4th (G) and the 9th (E)?
    Yes, that’s what it means - it would be a chord with five tones: D-F#-G-A-E

    Obviously, on a mandolin you are generally limited to four or less tones per chord, so you just want to find a fingering to play 3 or 4 of those notes that sound the best in your song context. It is not at all unusual to omit notes in a chord, you can omit even the root D … basically, you should experiment to find which notes to play in that context to make it sound the way you want.
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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Agreed, Mark, you don't need to get all the notes.

    But if the chord is really d-f#-g-a-e you could get them all by splitting the E course:

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    d-f#-a-e-g


    Edit: But listening to the cut, I wonder if maybe the chord name Dadd4add9 just gives the notes to be played arpeggio-style at one point by the banjo? So no need to get them all at once. I'm hearing a figure like a-f#-e-f#-g-f#-a etc., but in a different key. Are you playing it in the same key as on the record?
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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Well, that’s interesting … moving from F# to e to F# to g to f# sounds a lot like a device I’ve used often to pedal from sus2 - 3 - sus4 - 3

    I haven’t actually listened to the piece yet.
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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Might be easier to split the D course: 0 0/4 0 0
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    You must have tiny fingers, Martin!

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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Haven't actually tried it!

    Split the E course at the 2nd fret maybe?

    Or just tune one of your G or A strings down to f# ...
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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    Or just tune one of your G or A strings down to f# ...
    Great idea, Martin— the Zenkl approach!

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    Thanks everyone. Very helpful.

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    Yes, same key.

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    Default Re: Porcupine Tree - Trains - chord Dadd4add9

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Clausen View Post
    You must have tiny fingers, Martin!
    Jethro recommended growing your pinky fingernail a bit if you wanted to use split-string technique
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