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    Yes it does.

    And this one does not: http://reverb.com/item/50380793-1923...dolin-loar-era

    Too bad. It did look nice once. As for the price, they won't get it from me, Loar period or no Loar period. It kinda belongs in the "won't get a bid or a buyer" thread, but some poor soul who absolutely wants a '23 model will probably appear sooner or later . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcc56 View Post
    Yes it does.

    And this one does not: http://reverb.com/item/50380793-1923...dolin-loar-era

    Too bad. It did look nice once. As for the price, they won't get it from me, Loar period or no Loar period. It kinda belongs in the "won't get a bid or a buyer" thread, but some poor soul who absolutely wants a '23 model will probably appear sooner or later . . .
    That one has had some life - not dollar-adding life though!

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    Well, at least they didn't say "tons of mojo" or "well-loved" . . .

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    I love the looks of those Torch and wire F-4's! The later 2 points are sweet but we can't discredit those sweet 3 points! I've been getting into some of the old Gibby oval hole goodies-Thanks mainly to my 21 K-4!

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    Default Re: Lovely Torch & Wire Blonde F4 on Reverb

    Quote Originally Posted by bazz jass View Post
    %$#@ yes!

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    Very pretty and an oval-hole too, but too much money. At half that price, I would be hard-pressed not to make an offer.

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    Looks very nice! I contacted the store owner that is selling the mandolin for the owner to see if the owner would sell the mandolin for lower than the asking price. The owner will go a little lower, but not much lower than listed price.

    Would be great to own this Gibson F-4! Sounds like it will need new frets, which is probably another $500 for the frets.

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    Default Re: Lovely Torch & Wire Blonde F4 on Reverb

    I do notice some variation in the color of the top finish.
    I don't know whether this is due to lighting conditions, or whether something has been done to the finish.
    Since the instrument is being sold "as-is", no returns, I would ask the seller about it and request more pictures before pulling the trigger.

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    Yes, the finish does look remarkably clean...
    a. to have been in that case all it's life
    b. to have frets so worn they need replacing

    Some some wavy top grain BTW!


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    I love the elegance of this era. The F5 introduced the sound and some upscale features like the lined binding but it seems this was when they nailed the perfect look of the florentine mandolin.

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    So this would be a Transitional model. ? My 3 point is a 1910.

    This one pictured looks like the one from a sale in eastern Canada a while ago.

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    you'd also want to replace the missing bit of pearl on the peghead
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimt View Post
    So this would be a Transitional model. ? My 3 point is a 1910.
    Yes. Gibson was not fastidious about using up old parts first when they implemented a new design for the part.
    You might say that they just threw the parts into the same bin, and the workers pulled them out in random order.
    As a result, we see a few 2 pointers with the long torch and wire inlay, and some 3 pointers with the later style "The Gibson" and flowerpot inlay.

    Oh, by the way, I see that it has sold, despite an earlier post from someone who thought that the price was high [it wasn't].

    I'd like to thank the buyer for relieving me from temptation-- I was in danger of breaking the pledge, and this would have been a bad time to succumb. Between a new roof, an increase in my property taxes, and a business that has not recovered from the epidemic, this really was not a good time for me to buy an instrument.

    By the way, I have found waiting to be an invaluable tool in keeping the pledge. If something really good comes along at a good price, I just wait a few days, and someone else always snags it up.
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    Default Re: Lovely Torch & Wire Blonde F4 on Reverb

    Lasted less than three days!

    There really are very few F4s available, especially this nice.

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    Default Re: Lovely Torch & Wire Blonde F4 on Reverb

    Yep, they're a bit scarce these days.

    2 or 3 years ago, there were more F-4's for sale than you could shake a stick at; with a dozen or more just at Gruhn's and Carter's, and many more scattered around all over. Not torch and wire models, though. Those are never very common, nor are the blondes.

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