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ID:	200308Hello, In the case of a ‘24 Gibson A Jr. are the pictured tuners. I’ve read about the not often seen amber tinted tuner buttons and would like to know if these are amber or more standard tuning buttons.
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    I may be wrong but I have only ever seen late 30s Kluson amber buttons- as you can see here:

    https://umgf.com/1930-s-kluson-amber...d-t185697.html

    Your tuners appear to be typical Waverly tuners with the sawtooth ends to the plates which were common in the teens and twenties. Have a look at the archive and look for photos of mandolins during that period. Various types of tuners were used in terms of the plates- arrow end, engraved etc and the earlier Handel tuners. Somebody else may have a different opinion to mine: http://www.mandolinarchive.com/perl/...ndolins.pl?all

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    Default Re: Help Identify the Tuners?

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ID:	200308Hello, In the case of a ‘24 Gibson A Jr. are the pictured tuners. I’ve read about the not often seen amber tinted tuner buttons and would like to know if these are amber or more standard tuning buttons.
    Thank you,
    Matt
    I maybe wrong, but those tuners don't look like '24 tuners at all (may have been old stock, though). Check out this thread: https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...highlight=onyx

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    Are you referring to the coffee-colored knobs that appear on Loar era mandolins like those on a 23 A-4? These are darker than the one the OP shows.

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    AFAIK the coffee colored knobs appear on a few arrow end tuners around '23/'24 (also on F4s BTW). The wiggle end tuners on the OP's A Jr. should be earlier than '23/'24.

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    Those look to be circa 1921 Waverly's to me, they have the amberish lines through the button-like marble effect-thats what it reminds me of. My 21 K-4 has the same buttons and when I talked with David Harvey he asked if my 21 K-4 had those tuners buttons as they were on the rare side and done around 21. I sure hope I'm saying this correctly of our phone conversation. I guess one could look in the archive pix?

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    Default Re: Help Identify the Tuners?

    Those look to be circa 1921 Waverly's to me, they have the amberish lines through the button-like marble effect-thats what it reminds me of. My 21 K-4 has the same buttons and when I talked with David Harvey he asked if my 21 K-4 had those tuners buttons as they were on the rare side and done around 21. I sure hope I'm saying this correctly of our phone conversation. I guess one could look in the archive pix?

    I know these are way different looking than the standard cream type ivoried buttons from the teens thru the 30's.

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