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    Hi all,

    Just would like some advice on upgrading. I am an intermediate (barely) player and have been using a mid-mo mando. I want to upgrade to something with a richer sound. Play mostly bluegrass, but also some European folk music. I want to spend about $1200, probably on a used instrument. Any suggestions would be welcome.

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    It seems to me these days that the leap from decent entry level mandolins to significantly better ones is a huge one moneywise. In your price range, the upper tier Kentucky's and 500 level Eastmans may be your best bang from what I've read here. A good set up can improve tone and playability as well. $3k is where mandos really start getting decent.

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    If you could spend a little more you could get this Silver Angel Econo mandolin.......

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/185297#185297

    100% small shop American made.

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    Some people do believe that a "decent" mando starts at about $3000. I have been playing mandos for about 35 years, and my opinion differs. You should easily find a "decent" mando in your price range, especially in the used market. There is a "decent" 1917 Gibson "A" for sale at a shop a couple of towns over from me. It's been played some, but it seems quite "decent" @ just over $2000.
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    Don't underestimate The Loar LM 700 that's in the classifieds for under a grand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandoblock View Post
    Just would like some advice on upgrading. I am an intermediate (barely) player and have been using a mid-mo mando. I want to upgrade to something with a richer sound. Play mostly bluegrass, but also some European folk music. I want to spend about $1200, probably on a used instrument. Any suggestions would be welcome.
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    While I don't play bluegrass, do play European (specifically Nordic) folk music. For that an f hole instrument is fine. Arto Jarvela is uing what appears to be a Kentucky KM-150 in Tallari these days.

    My recommendations are either a Gibson A Jr (oval hole, so not perfect for bluegrass) or maybe a Breedlove American series. Have an A Jr. and have played a number of gigs with it. Both are available at your price point of $1200. The Jr series is my favorite bargain of the Gibson line. Still usually less than other A models. But sound just as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Mangio View Post
    Don't underestimate The Loar LM 700 that's in the classifieds for under a grand.
    Agree. It’s a terrific mandolin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    If you could spend a little more you could get this Silver Angel Econo mandolin.......

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/185297#185297

    100% small shop American made.

    NFI
    Hi. Is this Silver Angel still available? I am interested?
    Couple questions:
    1. Is it new?
    2. Does it come with a case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandoblock View Post
    Hi. Is this Silver Angel still available? I am interested?
    Couple questions:
    1. Is it new?
    2. Does it come with a case?

    Thanks
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    You might want to send a message from the Classified ad to the seller.
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    Ex- Richardson TX guy here. Since you’re in a big metro area, going around and trying instruments should be possible. While “better” ones mostly have virtues, every one has its own voice and feel, and if you’re lucky, a mandolin may speak right to you, regardless of price or configuration.

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    I disagree with the terminology.

    I do not believe it to be an upgrade. If you want a more bluegrassy mandolin, or you want that archtop sound, I have no problem at all. But my experience with Big Muddy is that they are a very well made wonderful sounding instrument, that does what it does reliably and consistently. If one wants to branch out, or if flat tops are not your thing, that's fine, but don't let the affordable price fool you, the Big Muddy can absolutely be someone's forever mandolin.

    Better made with better materials than many comparatively priced archtops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandoblock View Post
    Hi. Is this Silver Angel still available? I am interested?
    Couple questions:
    1. Is it new?
    2. Does it come with a case?

    Thanks
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    Looks like it is still available, like Mike said, contact Ken via the classified ad. Good luck!
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    saw a real Gibson Army Navy posted for sale on a mandolin face book group.. 1918.. from
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    My first upgrade mandolin was a Silverangel Econo built in 2009, and it was an awesome step up from my Kentucky 675-S. It was a 2009 model and I played it until I bought my Kelley. Actually kept it over a Collings MT I got in a trade during that period as well. (The MT was also excellent, I just preferred the more traditional tone of my SA). I paid $900 used (remember, that was right after the recession of 2008, when Ken started building these, and you could get a used MT for 1500-1800 back then). So, while my $3000 Kelley is an upgrade, it was the first mandolin I played during that period under 6500 or so that I thought was legitimately better. It amazes me that Ken is still letting these go for $1500…best deal in the US mandolin market, IME, though Howard Morris is also well respected and a little less expensive. I’ve just never played any of his instruments.

    The Loar LM 700 is likely a very good mandolin as well if it’s an older model. They shifted business models a few years ago and their mandolin quality appears to have suffered as a result, though there are still those that love them. The 700 was their top tier mando back in the day and there were some real gems made. I’ll second the rec for an older US made Breedlove as well. Different styling, but good sounding mandolins in general. The Asian produced Breedloves would likely be a step down from your MidMo based on the ones I’ve played.

    Good luck, the hunt is always fun!

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    When I first looked into getting a Mandolin, the late Stan Jay of the former and famed Mandolin Brothers in Staten Island, advised me not to waste my money on anything less than all-solid-wood mandolin, which he said would provide a far better sound and value for the money. He specifically told me that a Big Muddy (then known as Mid-Missouri) was probably my best option, sounding as good as much more expensive mandolins with great playability at a lower cost. They are great little mandolins, not to be trivialized for sure. In your price range, you might trade it for an older mandolin with a little built-in mojo (in the form of a few bumps and bruises) in exchange for an F-hole and/or archtop design. The classifieds are probably your first stop, but get to a store to get a sense of how things sound and play. (NFI)

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