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    Hello everyone...

    I am new to Mandolin Cafe but not new to string instruments (I play classical guitar). This is my first post and I come here today to seek your expertise and guidance regarding learning, practicing and care for a mandolin.

    I recently inherited a mandolin and I'd like to learn to play. My wife's grandfather and his brother were good mandolin players back then. Her grandfather gave the mandolin to her mother and her mother gave it to her and she gave it to me.

    Here are some pictures and some questions that I can't find on the internet:

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    - Luthier: Euterpia (?)

    - Country: France

    - Year: unknown. Approximately what year was it built?

    - Under the main label there's a small one with the number 264 on it.

    - I'd like to change the strings. What would be a good brand and tension for a vintage mandolin (medium tension?)

    - Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you all for any help you can provide...

    dng

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    You need the lightest strings you can find. GHS Ultra Light- 9-32 would be a good starting set to commence your playing of the mandolin. https://www.stringsandbeyond.com/ghs...ight-9-32.html

    "Euterpe, in Greek religion, one of the nine Muses, patron of tragedy or flute playing." Let's hope that's a propitious start- and no tragedy- or not much! A very attractive mandolin and I hope you get much pleasure from it.

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    Beautiful! Good luck with it!

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    I found this one on eBay France- one photo still appears from the sale which raised 199 euros. It may well be the same model but is not in such good condition. I would suggest the mandolin is from circa 1900.

    https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/MANDOLI...-/261860824196 Paste this link into Google- clicking it takes you to some eBay black hole. There is just one photo available.

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    thank you Nick for your advice... (btw my son's name is Nick

    I will put in your recommended strings set for sure...

    @ Rickbella... I am about 20 miles south of Eugene, OR

    Could anyone please recommend a mandolin method book for a complete beginner that play classical guitar? - Is the Leonard method good? or is there a better one?

    thanks a lot...

    dng

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    I would only bring the theory from classical guitar to mandolin. Mandolins are best thought of as a plucked violin, not a little guitar.
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    Here's a Euterpia that auctioned in 2014. Pretty sad shape. The description mentions "Mirecourt," which I understand was a center of French violin making.

    And here's one being played on YouTube:



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    Should I know who's playing this -- dave17120?
    That's Dave Hynds: Mandolinluthier.com

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    I have an early proof copy of a book on 19th century guitar making in the UK that is yet unpublished and there is quite an extensive look at J. Thibouville Lamy- mentioned in the auction info posted by allenhopkins. The company had a London branch but the book shows pictures of their Paris and Mirecourt factories and it appears that stringed instruments were made in both. I will ask the author if Euterpia was a brand for this company.

    Edit: He has let me know that he is unaware of the brand which is surprising but even experts cannot be expected to know everything!
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    You might consider going to this jam, if it's not too far. You may not be ready to join in yet, but you can listen, watch, and learn, and surely meet members of the local mandolin community. If you bring your mandolin, maybe you can get some info from others there. I suggest you get there early, before the playing starts, and that becomes the focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennyb View Post
    ...That's Dave Hynds: Mandolinluthier.com
    Thought it might be, but wasn't sure. Thanx.
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    hi NickR,

    thank you for the eBay link ... but there's no picture on it.

    https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/MANDOLI...-/261860824196

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    Hello from Albany, Oregon!

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    And Howdy from farther up I-5 in Salem!
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    hi everyone,

    I am back again for one more question. The new strings are here along with a humidifier. Before changing the strings...
    In case the tuning machines break or something goes wrong... do you know a good mandolin luthier or repairer so I can send it in for repair?

    ohhh... btw... I am near Cottage Grove, OR

    thanks,
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    Welcome to Cafe, DNG, and it's nice to see a few Oregon replies. I am in Independence, just across the river from Salem; I have a Stiver F5 for jamming, but my main efforts go into my classical1912 K4 mandocello. I play with the Oregon Mandolin Orchestra which meets alternate Tuesdays in Portland, in case anyone is interested in (notated) orchestral playing. Yes, we play "classical" sort of, but really MO music brings in rags, country dance tunes, American Songbook, as well as Bach, Mozart, and Holst. Happy to connect for backyard jams or orchestra--prefer reply to my home email, no need to extend this thread beyond it's intent.
    DNG, if you get just a few chords under your fingers, I have lots of beginner stuff that would be fun to mess around with. And since you played classical guitar, I am assuming you read notation charts, and I have enough of that to heat my house next winter. As far as books go, I will highly recommend Exploring Classical Mandolin by August Watters (who is relocating in Oregon). It assumes a bit of a musical background, notation, terminology, which as I said you probably have. But it also introduces basic elements such as holding the pick, up and down strokes, chord and scale fingerings, various national and historical approaches to the instrument...

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    Thank you Jim,

    I will get that book and go to Portland for Oregon Mandolin Orchestra when it's convenient.

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    Hello from Roseburg.

    There is a jam monthly in Sutherlin: https://oregonbluegrass.org/venue/su...senior-center/

    I don't attend but know several folks who do. Might meet some in person folks there.
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