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    Just got a new Recording King 000 Dirty Thirties tenor guitar with custom strings from Stringjoy for low gCEA tuning. all sounds fine except for A7 cord. For some reason, it sounds out of tune when I strum all 4 strings. Seems like the low G string is the problem. Any ideas?

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    I'm curious - why are you using ukulele tuning? I've got a 1935 Triolian steel tenor guitar and have always used a mandola tuning, CGDA.
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    Default Re: A7 chord out of tine

    Also wondering about the Uke tuning in use here, and assuming that A7 chord is a one-finger shape, the issue could easily be the action at the nut being slightly too high and affecting the open chord intonation.

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    If you are saying one finger at the 2nd fret on the g string that would be A minor not A7.
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    Default Re: A7 chord out of tine

    In a GCEA tuning, the one finger applied to form an A7 chord is on the first fret of the C string. It's an odd inversion, but the notes are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT66 View Post
    If you are saying one finger at the 2nd fret on the g string that would be A minor not A7.
    for gCEA tuning, you press the 3rd string, first fret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeybear View Post
    I'm curious - why are you using ukulele tuning? I've got a 1935 Triolian steel tenor guitar and have always used a mandola tuning, CGDA.
    GCEA has been an alternate tuning for "tenor" guitars and banjos forever. I am a long time uke player and have no reason to learn other tunings. So far, the only problem is the "glitchy" A7 chord. I can hear the g string is too low. Hoping a lighter string will fix it. I problem caused it when I asked Stringjoy for deep sounding strings.

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    One of the things I'd recommend is hooking up a tuner of some sort, and playing through the fretboard one space at a time. It sounds like an intonation issue; if a chord is not sounding right, it's because at least one note is incorrect. See if you can identify exactly where the guitar starts to become inaccurate.

    Since intonation is related to action, the solution might be to alter the nut height, bridge height, or truss rod (the three variables that control action).
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    My guess, and it's certainly only a WAG, is that the nut slot is too high, causing the fretted note to be sharp, and causing you to hear the G as low, even though it may be at the correct pitch, but low compared to the sharp note of the fretted string.

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