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    Optical illusions.
    The lightning and background color make it appear different. On darker background or changed lightning it would look tighter. Also looks like the pics were taken from some distance which optically "opens" the scroll as the back of the scroll will not interfere as much with the outline seen from front...
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    All I know is is Loar #75319 is awesome, I'm very blessed to be the new owner to take care of it and play her! I'll try and get some videos at some point for you all!

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    Another new/old Loar in the HOUSE! This is the very early 1924 Lloyd Loar Rybka H-5 Mandola! This thing is like an F-5 Loar on Roids! Awesome tone, volume, overall voice is tops and one of two that I know of with the Flowerpot peg head inlay as all the others have the Fern inlay! I'll try and get my own pix of this one and Loar F-5 #75319 thats also my new/old Loar! Enjoy!

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    A super-nice 1923 Loar was just listed at Morgan Music... a good-looking mandolin! Looks like an all-original closet queen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glassweb View Post
    A super-nice 1923 Loar was just listed at Morgan Music... a good-looking mandolin! Looks like an all-original closet queen...
    For your convenience, shoppers: https://morganmusic.com/p-2156-gibso...-mandolin.aspx
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    This should be a good series of weekly videos of a variety of players playing a 23 Loar that was owned by a classical player since 1936. The Karasik Mandolin Project: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY-...CmZvv-7ZxLA23A
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    Eli wouldn't let bluegrass players play it because when he did they scratched it.

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    Here's Eli with the Loar after a Denver Mandolin Orchestra performance. That's Emily's mom behind him.
    The flash made it too stark but that's what I got.
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    That is my mom. I don’t think I’ve seen that picture before. This video series is going to be really fun.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxZrySDnubg

    Don't miss episode 2 with Tim May.
    I get to get my paws on it today!

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    Here are some pics from my time spent with the Eli Karasik Loar this morning. Sorry, I didn't write down the serial when I heard it but it's a January 5, '23. Wonderful sounding instrument that's in incredible condition with a great story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hilburn View Post
    Here are some pics from my time spent with the Eli Karasik Loar this morning. Sorry, I didn't write down the serial when I heard it but it's a January 5, '23. Wonderful sounding instrument that's in incredible condition with a great story.
    It was fun coming over this morning. The serial number is 71839.

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    Hey Jim, I was in contact with Ely's son's a few months ago about their Dads Loar. They sent me pix of the body joints to see if it was born with a Virzi or retrofitted. I couldn't tell from the photo. Did you happen to notice that detail? The back binding would be a touch thinner as in width and the back side of the dovetailed body points would be cut if retrofitted. Just very curious-the geek in me!

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    I got this picture but that doesn't help. I've never heard of a retro Virzi. Why would they do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hilburn View Post
    ...I've never heard of a retro Virzi. Why would they do that?
    Good question. Probably for the same reason that they put them in in the first place.
    The Loar that Danny Roberts owned had had a Virzi installed. The mandolin is noticeably thinner from top to back than usual and the dovetails are gone from the back part of the corner protectors. I've seen at least one F4 with a Virzi installed later. Besides the thinner body and missing dovetails, at least one of those had some places where the back and rim were not particularly well aligned.

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    Hi will. I’m currently the curator of the mandolin. The virzi looks original to me. Very little is not original on the mandolin. It has new tuners on it and the bridge isn’t original. I really like the way the virzi makes the sound very clear and ring.

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    I noted the additional fingerboard markers today. Eli was a classical player and if the music called for it you played up the extension.
    Another thing that occurred to me was that Eli owned this Loar up to his death nearly 20 years longer than Monroe had his.

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    I was just curious if the Virzi was installed first then the back put on, or the mandolin completed then the back sawn off and the Virzi installed "that's retrofitted" My Dec. 1st 24 was completed then the back sawn off and Virzi installed. Gibson did this to many Virzi Loars.

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    No wonder they fired Loar.
    I'm curious too. I sure didn't notice anything but then I wasn't aware of what to look for.

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    That looks like it's in mint condition. Looking forward to seeing the video when Emily posts it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hilburn View Post
    No wonder they fired Loar.
    I'm curious too. I sure didn't notice anything but then I wasn't aware of what to look for.
    Well Lloyd was an advocate for the Virzi, so I'm sure he helped sell them "does anybody know off hand how much a Virzi would cost to your Loar bill back then?" The Loar 5's I've seen with Virzi added after the build were done before the finishing process. I highly doubt they'd take a complete finished instrument and saw off the back and refinish it. I'm curious to how many Loars had a Virzi then the back put on and finished.

    I didn't know about this till I got mine and really looked at it. Larry Wexer told me about this as he was there when I picked up my Virzi 5. My recent swap deal also had the back cut off for the Virzi and that's the Rybka H-5 Loar. I'm sure Darryl, Tom and some other's that have had their hands on loads of Loar's can shed some lite on this interesting topic. I believe all the Virzi Loars I personally looked at, at the last Banjerthon-Loarfest had the retro-fitted Virzi. I may be wrong as it was a few years back and there was more eye and ear candy, this guy had a serious overload with all the multitude of great instruments there, "and yes the banjers were very neat to check out as well"


    Oh Emily, I didn't mean to say anything negative about that awesome Loar, the Virzi is completely original. The later installation was just what they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Smith View Post
    ...I highly doubt they'd take a complete finished instrument and saw off the back and refinish it...
    Apparently, you could send your mandolin back to Gibson and have a Virzi installed. I've seen an F4 from the teens with a Virzi serial number from a much later year than the year of the mandolin. (Sorry, no records. It was long enough ago that I didn't see any reason to record the numbers.) It was not refinished, perhaps touched up, but after 80 or 90 years it wasn't obvious just what went on.

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