Steve howe

[jmcgann]

What no Siberian Khatru?

OK, but it's going to be the solo from Roosevelt Stadium '76- the best live bootleg out there (despite the feedback and assorted buzzes, it was a live FM broadcast in NY and PA that I taped on my trusty 8 track cartridge recorder!) and the best Siberian Khatru solo out of about 58 that I've heard from various tours!

May as well add their arrangement of "America" to the medley, since Steve doffs his cap to James Burton and Chuck Berry (and by proxy, Bill Monroe) on that one! The string bends might do me in, however...

[Michael H Geimer]

Eddie was a stunt double for Geoff Downes.

Witness protection double. Eddie was helping Geoff hide from the authorities after the untimely death of that Radio Star.

Progarchives? What do they know ... they gave me 4 stars (which is more than they offered Mr. Jobson). Clearly something has gone out of whack with their rating system.

- Benig ... possibly (probably) the least talented keyboardist ever to grace prog rock.

[mandopete]

Okay, as long as we're morphing this thread...I recall Eddie Jobson from his days with U.K. #I was searching the net for video of Allan Holdsworth to show to my son, who is into "shredding". #IMHO it's Allan Holdsworth, who influenced Eddie Van Halen, who started this metal shred-fest. #

Anyway I was remembering how much I liked U.K. and I found some of their stuff and from there recalled Eddie Jobson. #Now what I can't recall is that band he was in prior to U.K.

...all of which has nothing to do with Steve Howe.

Wait a minute - 6 degrees of separation - didn't U.K. sort of morph into Asia?

Time to do some research.

Update - John Wetton played bass in both U.K. and Asia.

[jefflester]

Anyway I was remembering how much I liked U.K. and I found some of their stuff and from there recalled Eddie Jobson. #Now what I can't recall is that band he was in prior to U.K.

He was in Roxy Music, and then also played with Zappa.

[jefflester]

Update - John Wetton played #bass in both U.K. and Asia.

And possibly more significantly, sang. I think Wetton's voice was a big reason why Asia hit it big.

[jmcgann]

IMHO it's Allan Holdsworth, who influenced Eddie Van Halen, who started this metal shred-fest. #

You are correct sir, and EVH has given AH his propers many times...

I think Wetton's voice was a big reason why Asia hit it big.

The timing of UK was off by a few years- if they came out in 1974 or 1975 instead on 1977/78 they'd have been as big as Yes, but the fashion of the times was more Ramones/Sex Pistols. I saw UK on their 1st tour and the theater wasn't half full (I think everyone was at a Public Image show or something...) I enjoyed that 1st UK album, especially Allan's archtop acoustic intro on "Nevermore"- beautiful-see what happens when you eschew 'licks'? OOPS..wrong thread...

[mandopete]

See what happens when you eschew 'licks'? OOPS..wrong thread...

Yeah, that and a whammy-bar!

[jefflester]

I saw UK on their 1st tour and the theater wasn't half full (I think everyone was at a Public Image show or something...) I enjoyed that 1st UK album.....

Out of print, but well worth tracking down is U.K. - Concert Classics Vol. 4. A 1978 radio concert from Boston when Holdsworth and Bruford were still in the band. Far superior to the trio "Night After Night" live album. I don't know how hard it is to find, I bought mine when it was first released.

[mandopete]

It's all out of print. I tried finding the U.K. album for my son, but no luck.

[jefflester]

It's all out of print. #I tried finding the U.K. album for my son, but no luck.

Looks to be easily obtained from Amazon.

[mandopete]

You know, I think I tried that. #I even ordered it only to get a message that it was unavailable. #What's up with that?

BTW - Progarchive is a hoot!

[mandopete]

Is that on vinyl?

[mandopete]

Allright, one more bit and I'll stop dinkin' with this thread. Found these on UToob....

The original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30c-wEGRwig

A neat copy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqEpGRcMDPU

[Michael H Geimer]

John Wetton played bass in both U.K. and Asia.

Sometimes in the guise of his alter-ego ... Greg Lake.

FWIW: Jobson did a short stint playing with Jethro Tull on their "A" album (right up there with Tormato IMHO).

Gosh ... I know way too much about this genre ... like some kind of freakish Trekkie!

Oh ... sorry to be part of this thread's drift into General Prog Knowledge. Bringing up Jobson was a lame attempt to put something close-ish to a mandolin into the context of Yes as a band. (Jobson plays violin ... and very well)

[Brian Baker]

OK, Benignus, you're freakin me out. It's like I've found my musical alter-ego in an alternative universe! Whoda thunk it - another prog-loving mando player...

I too love the Jobson Zinc album, although I don't have a copy on CD. UK is one of my alltime faves - especially Danger Money (we don't need no stinkin guitars!).

Here's some of my prog faves:
Jobson - Zinc
UK - Danger Money
Yes - everything, including Tormato!
ABWH
Wakeman - Six Wives, Journey to Center
Chris Squire - Fish out of Water
Kansas - Leftoverture, POKR, Masque, Two for the Show
ELP - Tarkus, Pictures, BSS, Trilogy, first album
Crimson - In the Court, In the Wake, Red
Flower Kings - Retropolis, Stardust
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Starcastle - first album (better Yes than some Yes!)

Obviously, I'm a fan of strong melodies, bombastic keyboards, and symphonic arrangements.

Oh, BTW, I stand by my guns on Steve Howe playing mando with Yes: the Run Through The Light intro is definitely mando!


Brian

[Brian Baker]

Hey, why don't we see who can post the coolest mando recording of a prog tune, or solo from a prog tune? You could start simple (Moog solo from Lucky Man?), or just flat bust out Mood for a Day from the get-go.

Any takers?

[mandopete]

Here's some of my prog faves:
Jobson - Zinc
UK - Danger Money
Yes - everything, including Tormato!
ABWH
Wakeman - Six Wives, Journey to Center
Chris Squire - Fish out of Water
Kansas - Leftoverture, POKR, Masque, Two for the Show
ELP - Tarkus, Pictures, BSS, Trilogy, first album
Crimson - In the Court, In the Wake, Red
Flower Kings - Retropolis, Stardust
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Starcastle - first album (better Yes than some Yes!)

What, no Genesis?

You know this subject comes up every now and then and I'm not too surprised to find other mandolin players who were or are interested in what is called "Progressive Rock" music. #This was a huge part of my musical upbringing and the only type of music that I listened to in my high school years.

Even though my tastes have drifted more to bluegrass music I don't see it as that huge of a leap as both forms place a high premium on musicianship. I think that an instrument such as mandolin would be a natural fit for this type of music. I often think of the things that groups like Genesis and Yes did with multiple guitars, cross-picking, harmonies, those sort of things.

[Michael H Geimer]

Triumvirat

Oh yeah ... PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI!

Pete ... well said!

Long ago ... It was another local prog keyboard player who first opened my ears to folk instruments. I remember being intrigued when this guy mentioned how he always loved the penny whistle ( huh? ), but he then proceeded to write, and record a song at home using it. Sounded really cool compared to the synthetic sounds of the 80's that were all around me at the time.

Just recently, I ran into another keyboardist from that same group of friends and players. I was at an open mic with my wife playing Carter Family songs, and he was there with some type of ethnic wind instruments making really great music combining the pipes with delays ... not gimmicky at all! Very melodic, well composed, etc.

It's interesting to see the where our early influences take us.

[mandopete]

Man, that Progarchive website was a real trip back in time for me. #Bands like Gentle Giant, Hatfield & The North, Van Der Graff Generator, bands I hadn't thought about or heard in years.

Great time waster!

[jmcgann]

Hey, why don't we see who can post the coolest mando recording of a prog tune, or solo from a prog tune? You could start simple (Moog solo from Lucky Man?), or just flat bust out Mood for a Day from the get-go.

Any takers?

I'm giving it some serious thought...

[Michael H Geimer]

I'm not sure what tune to tackle, or how I'll record it (tore down my studio last weekend ... moving), but I'm in too.

[James P]

It's only talk.



brouhaha! #

[mandopete]

I like this idea of using the mandolin to record something progressive. I have been thinking about taking an Eno-istic approach - maybe loops or some sort of Frippery.

[Elliot Luber]

This is a great discussion, it's too bad I was busy yesterday and couldn't participate. I was trying to play "Roundabout" on mando the other day. When I was in the music industry, about the time "Owner of a Lonely Heart" came out, I got back stage passes for a Yes show at Madison Square Garden in New York. Driving in with my girlfriend at the time we heard that Robert Plant and Jimmy Page were backstage before the show (we were supposed to have "after show" passes). So when I get to the Will Call ticket window, someone had stolen my tickets and passes. Bummer.

[Elliot Luber]

I was always amazed by Steve Howe's song "Mood for a Day" on guitar and I thus assumed he had strong classical training. I was amazed when I saw an interview with him on PBS, and he said he never had a lesson. I wish I could fiddle around with a guitar or mando and just happen upon something of that quality.