One of these days I'm going to remember which way to hold my phone so that photos turn out right side up on the MC forum
One of these days I'm going to remember which way to hold my phone so that photos turn out right side up on the MC forum
aka: Spencer
Silverangel Econo A #429
Soliver #001 Hand Crafted Pancake
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"You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage
to lose sight of the shore, ...and also a boat with no holes in it.” -anonymous
I awake in a fog. . .
Last night I offered $600 against a $1,200 eBay pitch on an '83 2M. The dust settled at $650.
Now to wait. . .
Seems almost perfect condition and includes the 5-latch case.
Couldn't pass it up!
I think it's compulsive?
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ˇpapá gordo ain’t no madre flaca!
'20 A3, '30 L-1, '97 914, 2012 Cohen A5, 2012 Muth A5, '14 OM28A
I just have to say I love this 17-year-old thread. It was started the year my youngest was born!
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Welcome back to this old thread!
1924 Gibson A Snakehead
2005 National RM-1
2007 Hester A5
2009 Passernig A5
2015 Black A2-z
2010 Black GBOM
2017 Poe Scout
2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
2018 Vessel TM5
2019 Hogan F5
So just a basic question..how similar is the 1N to the Gibson Army/Navy (or the three mandolins I've made from Crystal Forest plans)?
Hmm? I've only had the Flatiron in my hands. I think the original Flatiron was modeled after the Army-Navy; however. Not sure about the Crystal Forest?
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ˇpapá gordo ain’t no madre flaca!
'20 A3, '30 L-1, '97 914, 2012 Cohen A5, 2012 Muth A5, '14 OM28A
Looking at the Crystal Forest plans, they look similar to the Army Navy style. Not sure if the Crystal Forest is deeper at 1.5 inches or not.
Brentrup Model 23, Boeh A5 #37, Gibson A Jr., Flatiron 1N, Coombe Classical flattop, Strad-O-Lin
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Okay. Thanks. I forget the depth on the plans. I followed the plans pretty closely on the first one then tried a little deeper body and different wood from the maple spruce original. Very subtle differences and all fun to play.
The CF plans call for sides that are 1.5" deep. Terry's (Crystal Forest) mandolins are only slightly different from the 1N, but to look at a Crystal Forest next to a Flatiron, it'd be hard to tell the difference. I do believe the Flatiron was modeled after the Gibson Army/Navy.
I have built 2 from the Crystal plans, ... I am in the process of finishing up the second: with this one, i modified the plans even further, it is x-braced with a 7' radius induced arch (rather than 10'), i made the sides about 1.75" deep and did F-holes rather than an oval. The top is redwood and the back and sides are redbud wood.
aka: Spencer
Silverangel Econo A #429
Soliver #001 Hand Crafted Pancake
Soliver Hand Crafted Mandolins and Mandolin Armrests
Armrests Here -- Mandolins Here
"You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage
to lose sight of the shore, ...and also a boat with no holes in it.” -anonymous
Here are all 3 of the above mentioned Mando's from left to right: Gibson Army/Navy, Flatiron 1N, and Crystal Forest.
You can tell they are all very similar and I believe anyone would be comfortable calling them "Pancake" Mandolins! Gibson also sold the "Alrite" which was a fancier version of the Army/Navy mandolin with fancier appointments.
Last edited by soliver; May-04-2021 at 11:20pm.
aka: Spencer
Silverangel Econo A #429
Soliver #001 Hand Crafted Pancake
Soliver Hand Crafted Mandolins and Mandolin Armrests
Armrests Here -- Mandolins Here
"You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage
to lose sight of the shore, ...and also a boat with no holes in it.” -anonymous
And theres the Redline Traveler too,... just sayin'... but the discussion above was regarding the A/N, the 1N and the Crystal Forest mandos... and there's also the Sawchyn Beavertail. .... I'd say its a safe assumption that these are all modeled after the original Gibson A/N mando, though I'm not 100% certain.
aka: Spencer
Silverangel Econo A #429
Soliver #001 Hand Crafted Pancake
Soliver Hand Crafted Mandolins and Mandolin Armrests
Armrests Here -- Mandolins Here
"You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage
to lose sight of the shore, ...and also a boat with no holes in it.” -anonymous
. . . and Troublesome Creek too:
https://troublesomecreekguitars.com/...hm-1-mandolin/
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ˇpapá gordo ain’t no madre flaca!
'20 A3, '30 L-1, '97 914, 2012 Cohen A5, 2012 Muth A5, '14 OM28A
Finished my #002 build. I posted this and a video in my thread about the build of #001, but wanted to share a pic here too:
This one is X-braced rather than the typical A or H style bracing on the CF plans for this type of mando. Its also about 3/16" deeper and has violin style f-holes rather than the round hole. Redwood top and Redbud back and sides.
aka: Spencer
Silverangel Econo A #429
Soliver #001 Hand Crafted Pancake
Soliver Hand Crafted Mandolins and Mandolin Armrests
Armrests Here -- Mandolins Here
"You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage
to lose sight of the shore, ...and also a boat with no holes in it.” -anonymous
The Pancake bug bit hard and I impulsively bought an '82 N1 that should be here hopefully this week or next (I know the shipping world has been crazy with the Holidays and whatnot). No case. I'll be seeking recommendations though??? And, of course I'll post some photos/video upon its arrival. Oh, I can't wait!!!
Here's a photo from the seller.
Also, forget to mention how great this, now historical, thread is. I will catch up on all the posts over the Holidays when I'll have some free time to read all 50 pages. Thanks to all who added!
Sorry...not a fan.
2021 The Loar LM700 VS
Zack - congrats on getting one. Hopefully you will report on how it sounds once it shows up.
Been getting the itch for one again. Not sure if it will happen or not. Been trying to really downsize on instruments this year.
Brentrup Model 23, Boeh A5 #37, Gibson A Jr., Flatiron 1N, Coombe Classical flattop, Strad-O-Lin
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Ah, good luck with that case search. If you find any good options, let us know.
In my case, I had a Flatiron 2-MB with a chipboard case in terrible condition. I ended up buying an inexpensive 1-N just for the case. I was always disappointed in the 1-N until I finally had it setup earlier this year. Turns out it sounds really good! Now I have another good sounding Flatiron in a crummy case.
Looks cool, Zach. Alot different from your Weber, for sure
Last edited by Sue Rieter; Dec-15-2021 at 5:07pm.
Strange . . . I haven’t seen Zach searching up threads about The Loars to voice his dissent.
I am a fan. My Flatiron 1N to my ears was the best sounding of the flattops I sampled when starting out, including a Mid-Missouri, Gypsy, and Redline Traveler. I did prefer the aesthetics and especially the playability features on the Redline though — adjustable bridge and truss rod, radiused board, larger frets, etc. — and requested those specs when I ordered a custom built Scout from Andy Poe. It isn’t three times better for three times the money, but then, I haven’t had an urge to buy another pancake subsequently.
1924 Gibson A Snakehead
2005 National RM-1
2007 Hester A5
2009 Passernig A5
2015 Black A2-z
2010 Black GBOM
2017 Poe Scout
2014 Smart F-Style Mandola
2018 Vessel TM5
2019 Hogan F5
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