How do i id my tuners

[MandoPirate]

One of my tuning knobs broke off my morgan monroe mcm cb .. and im not sure what kind of knobs i have to buy from stew mac.

My gold hardware has a little sliding piece over the shaft that the new tuner knob will press against ... ?? I just dont want to buy the wrong thing .. I did a search, didnt find my answer yet.

thanks

[MikeEdgerton]

Perhaps a picture might help.

[MandoPirate]

ok .. my first attempt at posting a pic here ...

What kind of tuners ? ..thanks

[MikeEdgerton]

They look a lot like Schallers with the exception of the phillips screw.






stewmac.com sells them.

Do you still have the button?

[MandoPirate]

im not so sure .. the shaft is on different sides of the little gearing, mine look upside down .. ... and a screw holds on the actual knob

I only could find half of the tuning knob

thanks for trying ..
Mark

[Red Henry]

Mandopirate-- If those knobs were molded on the shafts, there may be little choice except to replace that side of the tuners, or both sides if you want them to still match. The good news is that (1) tuners are pretty easy to replace yourself, and (2) there are some decent tuners on the market that don't cost an arm and a leg. First Quality and Stew-Mac are probably good sources.

[MikeEdgerton]

OK, revising my own answer. Is a piece of the shaft broken off as well or did you just lose the button?

Either Schaller or Grover (one of them) makes the tuners with the gear below as well.

[buddyellis]

Those look like grovers to me (except for the color of the shaft), got a side shot? Is there a black bushing on the bottom of the shaft gear (not the worm gear)?

Detail of the end of the shaft that has lost the button would help alot too.

-b

[MikeEdgerton]

If the shaft is broken he has to replace the side or the set, if the button is missing and he can get a match he should be able to attach the knob with a few drops of CA. I think the engraving looks more like the Schaller than the Grovers. The Grovers I've seen have screw on buttons. He does need a gear below set.

[MandoPirate]

ill work on better pictures .. wont be until tonight .. thanks so much, I think i see light at the end of the tunnel

[MikeEdgerton]

Before you do anything else contact Morgan Monroe Customer service and ask if they have the tuners or the knobs available. There website is here.

[buddyellis]

Grover makes both. Well, actually, that is a misnomer, the shaft below worm are just the shaft above worm with the gears reverse, so the tuners turn backwards from what I consider 'normal'.

[buddyellis]

Actually mike, that should probably be his first stop. MM has lifetime warranty. Whether or not that applies to tuners, I do not know.

[kestrel]

MandoPirate - If you find a button that will fit the shaft (Measure it, then call the supplier before you order.), rough up the shaft (only the area that the button will cover) put it on with Gorilla Glue. Dampen the roughed portion of the shaft with water, fill the button with GG, and press it on. Leave it alone till next day, and then carefully trim off the stuff that foamed out, with a sharp knife.

[mandroid]

Stew Mac has some buttons, and CA, slow setting crazyglue to stick them on there. water based glue is questionable on metal.

The way Schaller, or those like them, tuners are made they can be dismantled to swap various length shafts around.
the plate humps over the shaft, and so by taking them off the peghead and removing round gear, they will come apart.

[Philip Halcomb]

I had one of those way back and the tuners were not schallers or grovers. They're some weird low-quality tuning machines. I second replacing them. Grovers can be had from stew-macs for around $50 if I remember. I think that would be the best way to go, you'll probably enjoy them a lot better too. These tuners will work a lot better than what's on there.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop....es.html

I distinctly remember how poor the quality of the morgan monroe tuners were. But if you like them you can probably search for a replacement button on www.stewmac.com that will look similiar and work. Take care...

[MikeEdgerton]

If you go with the superglue method be really careful that the glue doesn't spurt out onto your mandolin or your eyes or anything.

[buddyellis]

If you get new tuners make sure you get the worm gear OVER the shaft, like your mandolin has, or you will have troubles. If you do get those grovers, you can take them apart and reverse everything (as I said before, when you buy grovers arranged that way, that's all they do, give you a set thats reverse assembled, not reverse machined)

[david blair]

Do any of you glue the knobs on when installing a new set? #Or use lock tight on the screws holding the knobs?

Mine come loose from time to time. I can tell the difference sometimes in the way the mandolin sounds if the knobs are a little loose. Mostly just a loss of overall volume, but sometimes if the D string tuner is loose an F note fretted on the D strings give a kind of interesting "frog" sound. I should learn how to play Ducks on the Millpond.

[Bill Snyder]

Stew Mac has some buttons, and CA, slow setting crazyglue to stick them on there. water based glue is questionable on metal.

While I don't know that I would recommend Gorilla Glue for this (it might be great - I don't know) it is NOT water based glue. It is a polyurethane glue that cures in the presence of moisture.

[MikeEdgerton]

Do any of you glue the knobs on when installing a new set? Or use lock tight on the screws holding the knobs?

Take a look at this thread.

[MandoPirate]

update on tuners ...

I contacted customer service for Morgan Monroe and they are sending me a set of knobs .. will let you know more if I still have trouble. .. and ill post a pic of the side of my tuners just so everyone can see.


Christmas has me busy and theres chores need doin' lol!

thanks
Mark