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    What are the advantages over anything else?
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    Mr. Loar,

    I did a search of James AND Tailpiece in the equipment section for today and older and go these threads. The James IMO has a great tradtional look, and according to most others it is very easy for string changes.

    There are plenty of instances where people say changing the tailpiece alters the tone a good bit (heavier TP = better tone) and plenty of others that say the TP impact is minimal.

    You'll have some reading to do.

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    Jamie I came to the opposite conclusion of the idea of tailpiece. On 3 of the last 4 mandolins I've owned changing the tailpiece out for a traditional stamped brass Gibson style tailpiece improved the tone on those mandolins. I guess like all the other things with a mandolin although they look the same, they don't always have the same results when changing something on them.

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    Some advantages: they look great, come in a variety of styles, will be engraved for base price, hold the string in place during changes to simplify restringing, they don't seem to tarnish, or degrade with wear. #I have no idea if they improve tone or volume, but they do have distinct advantages
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    I would call a James a medium weight tailpiece. Heavier than a trad. stamped but lighter than the cast ones.
    They're pretty close to perfect.

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    This is my new invention, The Silverplate Shell Tailpiece..
    I put this on my Gilly..What da ya think?
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    Looks kinda big on the instrument Maybe you could post different pics in a new thread on it. The aestheic may appeal to some folks. Do the strings attach like on a cloud TP or some other way?

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    It doubles as an armrest and lunch box!

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    Quote Originally Posted by (chip @ Feb. 14 2008, 09:47)
    This is my new invention, The Silverplate Shell Tailpiece..
    I put this on my Gilly..What da ya think?
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    I actually like the way the James Tailpiece is made. The one thing that I do caution people on is that it will not fit onto an Eastman without filling and redrilling the peghole (unless they've changed in the last two years). I bought one for the 615 I used to own and ended up returning it because I didn't want to go through that much trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (chip @ Feb. 14 2008, 09:47)
    This is my new invention, The Silverplate Shell Tailpiece..
    I put this on my Gilly..What da ya think?
    Hey, no hijacking this thread
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    Mr. Hilburn put James TP's on my mandolins. They are great. They really make string changes much easier and they look fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (chip @ Feb. 14 2008, 09:52)
    It doubles as an armrest and lunch box!
    Never a shortage of mando humor!!!!! Foe a second I thought he got you Jamie.

    Regarding the tail piece ----- what Brad said. Lp
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    Only difference I've ever noticed myself with a more solid tailpiece was greater sustain. That said, I just traded into a mandolin that has my first ever James tailpiece, and I can see what all the fuss was about. Great form and function in one package. I really like it, and I've tried most all of them. Frank
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    Quote Originally Posted by (JEStanek @ Feb. 14 2008, 08:40)
    There are plenty of instances where people say changing the tailpiece alters the tone a good bit (heavier TP = better tone) and plenty of others that say the TP impact is minimal.
    My first reaction to the Allen tailpiece was that it's a PIA to change strings. I can't prove or disprove anything regarding weight influencing tone, but I can say for certain that the mandolin I have with the Allen sounds so good, I will not mess with it for convenience sake.

    The James blends beauty and convenience and is a great improvement over stamped traditional tailpieces. I have one mandolin with each type (James/Allen). If I were a braver man I'd swap the two tailpieces to see how it influences tone, but I'm just not curious enough...and even if I were, It would be pointless to try and convince anybody of my opinions anyhow.



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    Thanks for all the "to the point" responses and humor. I had to come to a swift conclusion regarding the tailpiece choice on my latest venture. I'm glad I didn't have to read through all the old posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Mr. Loar @ Feb. 14 2008, 19:41)
    ...I'm glad I didn't have to read through all the old posts.
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    One item that is seldom mentioned is that the "O-rings" in the James tailpiece eliminate the need for the "spurious harmonics" grommet eliminators that many people put between the strings positioned between the bridge and the tailpiece. #I don't know if these things make much of a difference, but a lot of people seem to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Lefty&French @ Feb. 14 2008, 16:09)
    Quote Originally Posted by (Mr. Loar @ Feb. 14 2008, 19:41)
    ...I'm glad I didn't have to read through all the old posts.
    Glad?
    I hate to read.
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    I had an old Hudson that had hubcaps like that scalloped tailpiece. With the spare in the trunk, I could have had five.
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    I had never given much thought to the orings acting as vibration surpressors, but now that you mention it, that's another very nice feature of the James TP

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    Will be receiving my iii mandolin next week, complete with a James tailpiece (The back of the mando can be seen on the Gallery page, top left). I chose it partially #based on the overwhelmingly positive responses from this board, but mostly for the purported #ease of string changes. Oh, they also look "way cool". - evidently the "cool"
    emoticon doesn't work for me either. #

    Will post my impressions after the first string change.

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    They balance out the Waverlies quite nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (F5G WIZ @ Feb. 16 2008, 05:07)
    They balance out the Waverlies quite nicely.
    That's great to know since my Poe will have both.
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