What are the advantages over anything else?
What are the advantages over anything else?
"I love the smell of my mandolin in the morning. The smell, you know ... that varnish smell. Smells like victory."
Mr. Loar,
I did a search of James AND Tailpiece in the equipment section for today and older and go these threads. The James IMO has a great tradtional look, and according to most others it is very easy for string changes.
There are plenty of instances where people say changing the tailpiece alters the tone a good bit (heavier TP = better tone) and plenty of others that say the TP impact is minimal.
You'll have some reading to do.
Jamie
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Jamie I came to the opposite conclusion of the idea of tailpiece. On 3 of the last 4 mandolins I've owned changing the tailpiece out for a traditional stamped brass Gibson style tailpiece improved the tone on those mandolins. I guess like all the other things with a mandolin although they look the same, they don't always have the same results when changing something on them.
Some advantages: they look great, come in a variety of styles, will be engraved for base price, hold the string in place during changes to simplify restringing, they don't seem to tarnish, or degrade with wear. #I have no idea if they improve tone or volume, but they do have distinct advantages
I would call a James a medium weight tailpiece. Heavier than a trad. stamped but lighter than the cast ones.
They're pretty close to perfect.
This is my new invention, The Silverplate Shell Tailpiece..
I put this on my Gilly..What da ya think?
Looks kinda big on the instrument Maybe you could post different pics in a new thread on it. The aestheic may appeal to some folks. Do the strings attach like on a cloud TP or some other way?
Jamie
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It doubles as an armrest and lunch box!
Good gravy! Are you looking for investors? PM me if interested.Originally Posted by (chip @ Feb. 14 2008, 09:47)
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I actually like the way the James Tailpiece is made. The one thing that I do caution people on is that it will not fit onto an Eastman without filling and redrilling the peghole (unless they've changed in the last two years). I bought one for the 615 I used to own and ended up returning it because I didn't want to go through that much trouble.
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Hey, no hijacking this threadOriginally Posted by (chip @ Feb. 14 2008, 09:47)
keith madison
Mr. Hilburn put James TP's on my mandolins. They are great. They really make string changes much easier and they look fantastic.
Never a shortage of mando humor!!!!! Foe a second I thought he got you Jamie.Originally Posted by (chip @ Feb. 14 2008, 09:52)
Regarding the tail piece ----- what Brad said. Lp
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Only difference I've ever noticed myself with a more solid tailpiece was greater sustain. That said, I just traded into a mandolin that has my first ever James tailpiece, and I can see what all the fuss was about. Great form and function in one package. I really like it, and I've tried most all of them. Frank
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Jamie
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My first reaction to the Allen tailpiece was that it's a PIA to change strings. I can't prove or disprove anything regarding weight influencing tone, but I can say for certain that the mandolin I have with the Allen sounds so good, I will not mess with it for convenience sake.Originally Posted by (JEStanek @ Feb. 14 2008, 08:40)
The James blends beauty and convenience and is a great improvement over stamped traditional tailpieces. I have one mandolin with each type (James/Allen). If I were a braver man I'd swap the two tailpieces to see how it influences tone, but I'm just not curious enough...and even if I were, It would be pointless to try and convince anybody of my opinions anyhow.
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Thanks for all the "to the point" responses and humor. I had to come to a swift conclusion regarding the tailpiece choice on my latest venture. I'm glad I didn't have to read through all the old posts.
"I love the smell of my mandolin in the morning. The smell, you know ... that varnish smell. Smells like victory."
Glad?Originally Posted by (Mr. Loar @ Feb. 14 2008, 19:41)
One item that is seldom mentioned is that the "O-rings" in the James tailpiece eliminate the need for the "spurious harmonics" grommet eliminators that many people put between the strings positioned between the bridge and the tailpiece. #I don't know if these things make much of a difference, but a lot of people seem to use them.
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I hate to read.Originally Posted by (Lefty&French @ Feb. 14 2008, 16:09)
"I love the smell of my mandolin in the morning. The smell, you know ... that varnish smell. Smells like victory."
I had an old Hudson that had hubcaps like that scalloped tailpiece. With the spare in the trunk, I could have had five.
A couple of mandolins
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Some banjos
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I had never given much thought to the orings acting as vibration surpressors, but now that you mention it, that's another very nice feature of the James TP
Will be receiving my iii mandolin next week, complete with a James tailpiece (The back of the mando can be seen on the Gallery page, top left). I chose it partially #based on the overwhelmingly positive responses from this board, but mostly for the purported #ease of string changes. Oh, they also look "way cool". - evidently the "cool"
emoticon doesn't work for me either. #
Will post my impressions after the first string change.
They balance out the Waverlies quite nicely.
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That's great to know since my Poe will have both.Originally Posted by (F5G WIZ @ Feb. 16 2008, 05:07)
"I love the smell of my mandolin in the morning. The smell, you know ... that varnish smell. Smells like victory."
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