I am fairly illiterate about this sort of thing. I was wondering how you would put a site with roughly this skeleton together. The different intricasies of the board and the classifieds place and the instructors and builders and so on. I didn't want to bother anyone that didn't feel like answering with a pm. And the cafe posters may know a thing or 2. Whatever amount I assure you its more than I do.
Well, the first thing you need is Scott Tichnor.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Or, if you can't get him, get Scott Tichenor.
I think you need to learn html or Dreamweaver.
Steve Davis
I should really be practicing instead of sitting in front of the computer.
This started (I believe) as a basic simple html site. A couple of years ago he changed the whole layout to function with CSS. The forum is, for all intents and purposes, a separate entity, tho linked to the other site. If you notice the url is mandolincafe.net not org, tho it can exist on the same domain. There are also search functions and callouts to databases (builder list for example). More recently Scott has added RSS feeds and other advanced functions.
If you were intending to create a similar site in functionality etc. you would need to know more than a fair amount as a web developer. I am a mere web designer and am familiar but skilled in only some of this.
Jim
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Playing lately:
1924 Gibson A4 - 2018 Campanella A-5 - 2007 Brentrup A4C - 1915 Frank Merwin Ashley violin - Huss & Dalton DS - 1923 Gibson A2 black snakehead - '83 Flatiron A5-2 - 1939 Gibson L-00 - 1936 Epiphone Deluxe - 1928 Gibson L-5 - ca. 1890s Fairbanks Senator Banjo - ca. 1923 Vega Style M tenor banjo - ca. 1920 Weymann Style 25 Mandolin-Banjo - National RM-1
Ha I'm not making one. I am taking a class that scratches the surface and was just curious.
The Mandolin Cafe was created and is maintained by human hand using vi, the Unix command line editor. Dynamic content is compliments of Perl, the little programming language with no marketing department.
http://www.stephaniereiser.com then click mandolins
Beyond Scott (and my typo above) you might want to look at this product. It is what the message board is built on.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
With hide glue?Originally Posted by
pd
"... beauty is not found in the excessive but what is lean and spare and subtle" - Terry Tempest Williams
Its one of my core requirements but it is very interesting.
It all started with a small bag of Martha White Flower and went on to become an all purpose Mandolin Cafe.....
It cost no more to go first class...You just have to pay a little longer....
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The bracing is the key.
The cafe is a blend of pretty much every web technology that is available. Some parts are pretty straight html. A lot of javascript goodies scattered around. This forum is a canned product that has been customized. The builders section is a database (MYSQL?) with a cgi (probably Perl?) interface. There are probably pieces that Scott did a while ago that he would just love to update but since they still function they remain as is.
As with most sites this one has grown over time. You would need a staff to plan and build this site from scratch.
Don't forget the Custom Command Coding by Dan B.
Jamie
There are two things to aim at in life: first, to get what you want; and, after that, to enjoy it. Only the wisest of mankind achieve the second. Logan Pearsall Smith, 1865 - 1946
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So, is it X-braced, or does Scott use tone bars?
Lots of tech talk (CGI, CSS, Perl, etc.), but the real story about how the Cafe works: "all you need is faith and trust, and a little bit of pixie dust." (P. Pan)
Brace it like a McPherson guitar
This is top secret information but here is a chart as to how the cafe actually works.
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
That's a good idea in case if you have to take it apart sometime down the road.
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2 bottles of Knob Creek bourbon
1953 modified Kay string bass named "Bambi"
Putting a site together does take some time and has it's challenges... various web applications that need massaging... code snipits... etc... The real time drain would be managing this message board. It takes a TON of time to deal with I'm quite sure. As big a pain as it is, I think it's an excellent resource and worth the effort... some days
Thanks Scott!
Daniel, there are a number of open source frameworks that can be used to build robust websites. I'm not speaking of the 'cafe specifically, but you've probably noticed that a lot of the social web sites look and function very much the same, in the way houses tend to be the same--windows, a door somewhere near the middle of the front, a garage attached--you know, they're not all identical, but you know a house when you see it.
I have a hosting account with powweb.com that I use for experimenting with different open source frameworks. If you go to their website and look at the "free applications" you can install on your hosted site, you'll see that there are a bunch of blog apps, forum apps, content management apps, wiki apps, shopping cart apps, classified apps, and so on. You still need to understand html and server technology to use this stuff, but it's a heck of a lot easier than writing something from scratch!!
I have a nice, fast server sitting behind my desk, but I find it far easier to mess around with these different apps using Powweb than trashing my own server with installs that I might not like. It's worth the (darn cheap) annual fee just to have the service as a learning environment.
Tim
"I'm not buying a banjo, I'm performing a public service by taking it off the market"
Well, if you speak geek, it's built on heavily-tuned linux, apache, mysql, perl code, mod_perl code, html, CSS, and a lot of elbow grease.
Scott's all the content and design, which is really quite staggering. I'm the engine room and managing the increase in traffic and keeping the response speedy.
Dan, it could be worse. You could be trying to keep all this running on a Windoze server!
Must get... to engine... room. Spock... playing Vulcan....
Instrument.
There are two things to aim at in life: first, to get what you want; and, after that, to enjoy it. Only the wisest of mankind achieve the second. Logan Pearsall Smith, 1865 - 1946
+ Give Blood, Save a Life +
That's rich!
2015 Chevy Silverado
2 bottles of Knob Creek bourbon
1953 modified Kay string bass named "Bambi"
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