"All it needs is a little love." Or a large hammer?
"All it needs is a little love." Or a large hammer?
Trevor
Formerly of The Acoustic Music Co (TAMCO) Brighton England now retired.
I propose a new new post: "That mando is soooo ugly, (fill in the blank)
Living’ in the Mitten
I'm waiting for the lower-priced Eastman version.
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I don't understand some people's desire to piss all over anything that isn't a perfect Loar clone. Celebrate diversity!
Martin, that instrument was referenced in my sources, but I could not find a picture of it. It might have been erroneously attributed to his cousin Gyro.Originally Posted by (martinjonas @ July 02 2008, 05:27)
"I thought I knew a lot about music. Then you start digging and the deeper you go, the more there is."~John Mellencamp
"Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann
"IT'S T-R-E-M-O-L-O, dangit!!"~Me
That thing is just plain funny. I'm with Allen, for $200 it's very tempting to buy it just for the laugh value. I can just imagine people's expressions after one pulls that thing out of its case.Originally Posted by (markishandsome @ July 02 2008, 09:39)
Jason
"Aerodynamically the bumblebee shouldn’t be able to fly, but the bumblebee doesn’t know that so it goes on flying anyway."
Newell A5 #37, Glenn F5 #66, Eastman 615 #537,
. The point of the original thread was the Ebay auction title of "Accurate copy of Gibson F5". Does this look like a typical F5 to you? We're poking fun at the auction listers somewhat decieving listing.Originally Posted by (markishandsome @ July 02 2008, 10:39)
A couple of mandolins
A couple guitars
An Upright Bass
Some banjos
Wax Paper over a comb
A Loar era Didjeridoo
"I Never Wanted To Be A Barber. I Always Wanted To Be A Lumberjack !"
Why that's just plain crazy talk!Originally Posted by (markishandsome @ July 02 2008, 10:39)
"It's comparable to playing a cheese slicer."
--M. Stillion
"Bargain instruments are no bargains if you can't play them"
--J. Garber
Oh please. I admit it haven't waded through all previous threads on this instrument, but I don't see the word "accurate" in the ebay listing. I do see "along the lines of". You can't deny that the majority of posts in this particular thread are making fun of the mandolin, not the lister.
That thing is meant to hang on the wall over the fireplace. About 5 inches above the grate would be just perfect.
I can deny it. They both deserve it. Here's what the listing says:Originally Posted by
Now the only similarity between this thing and a Gibson F5 is the name mandolin. I would have to have proof that that instrument is actually playable before I'd call it a mandolin. This isn't even close to being about <<anything that isn't a perfect Loar clone.>> #This instrument is just weird. And who the heck is Heimer?? Are we supposed to be impressed?Originally Posted by
<<Celebrate diversity!>> I don't celebrate diversity for diversity's sake. I celebrate excellence. I celebrate quality. I am not a mandolin snob by any means and I doubt I'll ever own a Gibson due to the cost, but this instrument and the person listing it are ridiculous.
"I thought I knew a lot about music. Then you start digging and the deeper you go, the more there is."~John Mellencamp
"Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann
"IT'S T-R-E-M-O-L-O, dangit!!"~Me
I think i seen herman munster playing that thing when i was a kid!!!
you gotta love the first question asked (on the listing) about how the pickguard is attached... so much for 'not a screw anywhere'.
-Geoff
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I would never post that question after saying there were no screws in the mando.Originally Posted by (Geoff B @ July 02 2008, 20:49)
"I thought I knew a lot about music. Then you start digging and the deeper you go, the more there is."~John Mellencamp
"Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann
"IT'S T-R-E-M-O-L-O, dangit!!"~Me
i think it is a beautiful piece of wood work, but it looks like a cabinet maker saw a mandolin somewhere and decided to copy it. if it was a solid body electric, it would be a handsome instrument (except the headstock. i did laugh when i saw the thickness of the f holes and the dowels. i wonder how mandy screws hold together the average mandolin
Cut it in half and have two Loar inspired salad bowls.
A couple of mandolins
A couple guitars
An Upright Bass
Some banjos
Wax Paper over a comb
A Loar era Didjeridoo
"I Never Wanted To Be A Barber. I Always Wanted To Be A Lumberjack !"
Its not that its not a perfect Loar clone. Its that it is one ugly ugly piece of wood.Originally Posted by (markishandsome @ July 02 2008, 10:39)
Well, the tuners and tailpiece are generally screwed on. Some have screwed-on strap buttons, although that's not common. And adjustable bridges have screw-threaded posts, though they don't hold the mandolin together. Pickguard brackets are often attached with screws, if they don't have adjustable brackets that clamp on to the side.Originally Posted by (Jkf_Alone @ July 02 2008, 21:44)
Of course, the Heimer is far from an "average" mandolin. I find myself wondering how many screws held its builder together...?
Allen Hopkins
Gibsn: '54 F5 3pt F2 A-N Custm K1 m'cello
Natl Triolian Dobro mando
Victoria b-back Merrill alumnm b-back
H-O mandolinetto
Stradolin Vega banjolin
Sobell'dola Washburn b-back'dola
Eastmn: 615'dola 805 m'cello
Flatiron 3K OM
The maker of this mandolin possibly could have been drunk at the time of construction of this coffee table mandolin!!
Poor mister Heimer. Whenever this thread comes up (is this round three?) I think if the title of the auction was "Funky Lumpy Old Doweled-together Oddity", we wouldn't have taken the time to make fun of it. If I had posted a picture of it in the "pictures" forum and said "here's my first attempt at woodworking. I know it's funky, but it was fun to make", would you be as merciless? #
(It goes to show you what a fire-starter the phrase "Gibson F5 copy" is, though I doubt the seller knows that.)
Not around here!
A couple of mandolins
A couple guitars
An Upright Bass
Some banjos
Wax Paper over a comb
A Loar era Didjeridoo
"I Never Wanted To Be A Barber. I Always Wanted To Be A Lumberjack !"
I wonder if he has anymore furniture for sale on ebay?
"Sorry I can't ship to Brazil, Poland or Russia"
Too, too many
I once posted a picture of a Style-O inspired mando I made, and while most posters had nice things to say, a few did call it ugly and criticize the workmanship. I'd like to see some of the F5-inspired instruments the Heimer-haters here have designed and built from scratch. I think these sorts of threads are bad for the community because they discourage members from posting pictures of their non-traditional or imperfect work. It may even prevent some folks from getting in to building because they fear anything short of "excellence" will be ridiculed.Originally Posted by
Nobody is a Heimer-hater. The main thing that is going here is how preposterous it is to call this thing a "Gibson F5 copy," and then declare, as if it proves some kind of non-intrinsic value beyond the norm, that it was built by HEIMER!!! #As others have said, the woodwork is fairly decent on the whole, but it doesn't make this a viable mandolin. This has nothing to do with members building anything#from scratch, and if you seriously think that this community would ridicule a member's work because it falls short of excellence, you haven't been reading the same forum I have. The eBay seller is either seriously under-informed about mandolins, or seriously #overconfident in valuing that instrument.
"I thought I knew a lot about music. Then you start digging and the deeper you go, the more there is."~John Mellencamp
"Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann
"IT'S T-R-E-M-O-L-O, dangit!!"~Me
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