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    Another fake Gibson up for auction on eBay, item number 130243288191 first it says Gibson A5 then A4 and it's not even an attempt at a copy, just a fake label and the Gibson logo on the peghead.

    I've informed the vendor, lets see what happens.

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    See the aforementioned gem, in all its glory: HERE

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    Somebody in Texas made a bunch of these things. That's the third one I've seen (different serial numbers) and I haven't really been looking.

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    Oh, my. It doesn't look like it's worth what the shipping would cost.

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    I contacted him and he replied that he was going to end the auction.
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    It's gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (TomTyrrell @ Aug. 01 2008, 07:46)
    Somebody in Texas made a bunch of these things. That's the third one I've seen (different serial numbers) and I haven't really been looking.
    I noticed that too, they're all pretty much the same Johnson/Hondo style mandolins too.
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    In Aransas Pass of all things, that's about 30 minutes down the road from me. Yikes!

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    Here's <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/BEAUTIFUL-GIBSON-MANDOLIN-A-4-WITH-CASE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ280253130997QQihZ018QQcategory
    Z10179QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">No. 4</a>...
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    Ya it's junk, but you get that cool gig bag.
    A couple of mandolins
    A couple guitars
    An Upright Bass
    Some banjos
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    Quote Originally Posted by (mrmando @ Aug. 04 2008, 18:06)
    Here's <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/BEAUTIFUL-GIBSON-MANDOLIN-A-4-WITH-CASE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ280253130997QQihZ018QQcategory


    Z10179QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">No. 4</a>...
    The seller even provides a nice shot of the interior label.
    Gibson A-4 made in Bozeman, Montana? #

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    This seller's digging in, claiming he "ran the serial number" and learned that the instrument was produced "in 1996 at the Nashville plant." Which is a bit weird, since the label says Bozeman.
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    Thats the same mandolin as the one I first mentioned, needs reporting again.

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    Well, I done reported it and told the seller what the problem is. Like I said, he's digging in.
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    Yeah, he responded to me that it show (sic) it was produced in Nashville. I pointed out that the label says Bozeman, MT and since the label and the number don't match it ought to tell him something. The last three guys removed the mandolins from eBay, let's see what happens here.
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    Oh no there are 9 bids!!!!
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    I know there is NO question that this is not a Gibson. I am wondering when was the last time Gibson built oval holed mandolins? Maybe if someone contacts him with that information he will pull the auction.
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    Now he's getting testy:
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    Are you some kind of expert?

    if you are maybe I can pay you to inspect the rest of my 800 guitars?
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    Well, he has been told that the A4 was discontinued in 1935 and that if he searches "Kona Mandolin" on eBay, he'll find his mandolin before alterations.
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    You should take him up on his offer to inspect his guitars! At $35 per instrument, you could make a tidy sum.
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    12 bids now. I hope the high bidder is a Cafe member with no intention of paying for it. I wonder what eBay would do if you could prove an item was fake and you only bid on it to protect the less informed?
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    I tried to report the item, but I get this:
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    Item number you are reporting
    Please enter a valid item number for a listing that has not ended.
    The item number is definitely right and the listing is still there, unless it was just removed and hasn't been processed yet.
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    Nope, I was doing it wrong. Now it's reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (jbmando @ Aug. 05 2008, 15:34)
    12 bids now. I hope the high bidder is a Cafe member with no intention of paying for it. I wonder what eBay would do if you could prove an item was fake and you only bid on it to protect the less informed?
    There used to be a Cafe member that would do just that. He would bid the mandolins up to Loaresque like prices so that he would not be overbid. I do not know how he handled the non-paying bidder part though.
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    Well, I just told him that if he didn't remove it I would do just that. It might be a hassle, but there is no doubt that I can prove fraud so it should not ultimately affect my rating on eBay.



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