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    I learned it In C from a recording by Henry Barnes. I use the amazing slow downer for learning most tunes. It’s funny you mention The key of D, since it seems way more typical of the world of C tunes. What do you know about the tune? It’s origin? Is it from the 1930s?
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    Most info is here.
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    This is where I learned Jonah in the Windstorm.

    I like the Barnes version. I know lately there are some fiddlers who play everything one step down although I can also see that the tune played in C works pretty nicely on the fretboard.
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    Oddly, the tune I learned reminds me Not so much of old time, but of the henry mancinii compositions from the 1950's. If I ever get to record it, I’ll do it mid-speed with a strong 50s hipster syncopation, maybe even with snapping fingers.

    I have to say the recording in D you sent me sure sounds rough and difficult to pick out the melody. I’m guessing your tune in D is by the composer.

    So often I'll hear a tune by someone with arrangement talents and deep fiddle chops like Brittany Haas record beautiful old time melodies that I just have to learn to play. And then, say a year later,I’ll hear the original field recording and I can’t even tell they are the same tune. It's like apples and oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Nollman View Post
    Oddly, the tune I learned reminds me Not so much of old time, but of the henry mancinii compositions from the 1950's. If I ever get to record it, I’ll do it mid-speed with a strong 50s hipster syncopation, maybe even with snapping fingers.

    I have to say the recording in D you sent me sure sounds rough and difficult to pick out the melody. I’m guessing your tune in D is by the composer.

    So often I'll hear a tune by someone with arrangement talents and deep fiddle chops like Brittany Haas record beautiful old time melodies that I just have to learn to play. And then, say a year later,I’ll hear the original field recording and I can’t even tell they are the same tune. It's like apples and oranges.
    Love to hear your Mancini arrangements—maybe with a string orchestra?

    I come from old time fiddling tradition and always like to go to the source, if possible. I love Brittany’s playing but IMHO she has deep violin chops and only a cursive interest in the deeper end of old time music. Again, I would give one of my arms to play 1/20th as good as she, however when I last saw her play she credited Brice Molsky as the source of a very old tune. Bruce knows the original source, of course.

    In the meantime, this is pretty close to the way I play it.

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    I love to hear these kind of homemade old tune recordings, and I especially like the harmonizing and the old time push. These two sound great.

    However, This YouTube in D doesn’t sound much like the first version in D you highlighted For me. If I’d heard this D version two weeks ago I would have been quite happy to learn it. The C tune recording sounds more like this YouTube recording, but more jazzy in its affect. It also sounds chromatic compared to this YouTube's major scale. Now I’m wondering how much the key colors the way it sounds.

    I’m curious if you play this tune on fiddle or mandolin or both. And which of your several mandolins you prefer for old time.

    I play an oval hole BRW when it’s just me and a banjo, or me and a guitar. The oval hole is built for jazz, and has a long Single note sustain that often gets lost with a fiddle because the timbre is much in the same timbral niche as most fiddles. For Performing with a fiddle I prefer my f hole Altman two point that has no tubbiness, and sounds like a throaty F5 across all the strings.
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    I alternate between fiddle and mandolin but usually pick up the mandolin that is closest. These days it is either my snakehead or my Campanella A-5. For the last week or so, I have been heavily into playing fiddle.

    BTW to get back to the topic of this thread...

    Here's one I am obsessively playing. These two folks who live in Scott's town of Lawrence have been the sources of some delightful fiddle tunes.



    Here's another one that I am working on:

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    Yes oh henry is a tune to learn for sure
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    Learned "Swinging on the Gate" yesterday from Mandolessons.com. My favorite recently learned song is "Colored Aristocricy". Learned it off a Youtube video by Carl Jones. Great song. Another recent favorite is "Harvest Home". Great picking practice song with lots of variation. It also has a downhill run that is tricky.
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    Is anyone else working up Norman Blake's New Chance Blues since Dave Benedict put up the tutorial? I tried taking it off the record years ago, but was way too lazy to get very far. David makes it almost easy. Well, relatively. It's a tricky tune.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtIbOlL3R2I

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    Oh Henry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Nollman View Post
    Oh Henry.
    Yes, Jim... you have excellent taste.

    I have been slaving over Oklahoma Redbird in Bb recently. Exceptionally fun on fiddle as well as mandolin.

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    I learned Oklahoma red bird in C. Great tune.
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    Jimmy Shanks, a nice, easy tune. On the new Pomeroy.
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    Wooden Whale is my favourite tune at the moment.
    Still working on it...


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    My wife and I specialize in old fiddle tunes with her on fiddle and me on guitar/mandolin/clawhammer banjo. I read music and mine the Portland books for all they're worth. I found some interesting tune books at the Celtic Interpretive Centre in Judique, Cape Breton Island, NS. An interesting tune we learned was Ways of the World. A favorite new OT tune was Elzics Farewell.

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    On my obsessive playing list lately:

    From Nile Wilson, Missouri fiddler: Oak Ridge Stomp, Old Reunion, Tune in C
    From Bert Payne, Kansas Fiddler (learned from video of Tricia Spencer and Howard Rains): Kash Kersey
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    I'm focused on Lindsey Road (Harvey Reid). I've played this in a duet for several years using my mandolin. Now, it's coming out of my octave mandolin. (Actually, I'm having fun re-tooling music on my OM! Fingering's not quite the same!

    All fun though!

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    Bobby Casey's Hornpipe on the Macica F5 and the Weber Black Ice Octave


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    Lonesome Fiddle Blues. Should have started it twenty years ago because that’s how long it will take me to get up to speed, by which time I won’t be able to play half that fast if at all.

    Fortunately there’s a couple of guys doing a nice slow mando w guitar version on Utube.

    I’m a firm believer that music is not a competition, but I can’t even watch Vassar playing it while I’m trying to get there. What he does with it is literally impossible.

    There is a cool vid of Sam Bush and ten-year-old Sierra Hull swapping it off, which is pretty inspiring. Just cause they have so much fun I think.
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    My new fiddle tune is Cora Dye. I found the notation from Gary Harrison -- Fiddle -- Indian Creek Delta Boys. Another good one is Baby Ben (James Bryan, fiddle) Both of these tunes are fairly complex to hear, so I need the notation to remember them.

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    Here's Cattle in the Cane on the Octave, Art Dudley learnt me up on this one before he passed away last year.

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    Here’s my newest tune, a favourite. I really like the rhythm to this one and the C major chord at the beginning of the B part.


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    I see you capoed up to the fifth fret. What key do you finger this in? It's a beautiful tune and I would love to learn it. The link says, "with tab," but I don't see a tab.

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