Early Grisman

[AlanN]

Continuing with delving into Dawg's past, came across a live recording - Great American String Band at the Great American Music Hall, 12-June-1974. Opening track is a fun tune called Bud's Bounce. I have this on Phil Rosenthal and the Stockwell Brothers Old Dog, too. Dawg & co. do Dawg's Rag, well before the definitive version on the Quintet record, same lines to it. Also, Spud Boy is on this gig, and sings Russian Lullaby, which made it to his Compliments record, sans mandolin.

I think the band included Richard Greene, not sure who the main guitar picker is. Banjo is probably Bill Keith.

[djweiss]

Alan,

I have the same show (I think), with the following info...I sure do miss Bluegrass Box!

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Great American String Band

Keystone; Berkeley, CA

6/12/74



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Via Ryan Shriver, extraction (EAC), .shn encoding

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by jupillej@mediaone.net



Disc One 39:15

Set I

1. Colored Aristocracy [3:42] [0:07]

2. Cedar Hill [3:35] [2:21]

3. I'll Be A Gambler If You Deal The Cards [2:19] [1:17]

4. My Plastic Banana Is Not Stupid [3:07] [1:33]

5. Moonlight Waltz [5:51] [0:07]

6. Swing '42 [5:12] [1:04]

7. Methodist Preacher [4:29] [0:55]

8. Limehouse Blues [3:25] [0:08]



Disc Two 51:59

Set II

1. Bud's Bounce [3:12] [0:32]

2. Dawg's Bull [2:27] [1:00]

3. Russian Lullaby [7:06] [0:20]

4. Virgin's Lament [5:29] [0:36]

5. Sheik of Araby [5:31] [0:41]

6. Billy Of The Lowgrounds [3:23] [0:55]

7. Dawg's Rag [6:59] [0:42]

8. Sweet Georgia Brown [4:52] [1:51]

9. Swing '42 [6:06] [0:12]



Flaws: None noted.



Notes (from The Jerry Site):

Show with Buell Neidlinger on bass. Band is introduced by

Richard Greene after My Plastic Banana. Although this has

a similar setlist to 6/13/74, there were indeed two

different shows.

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-DJW

[grassrootphilosopher]

so since you "have" it, the recording that is. Where is it available, other than through the grapevine?

[djweiss]

Alan,

Also, from thejerrysite.com, lineup info:

Great American String Band (4-20-1974 to 6-13-1974)


* Jerry Garcia - banjo, vocals
* David Grisman - mandolin, vocals
* David Nichtern - guitar, vocals
* Richard Greene - fiddle
* Taj Mahal - bass (4-20-1974 only)
* Buell Neidlinger - bass (4-26-1974 to 6-13-1974)


-DJW

p.s. grassrootphilosopher; I got it from the now defunct bluegrassbox.com site.

[AlanN]

Thanks, DJW. Fills in some holes.

[evanreilly]

That stuff isn't really 'Early'; find his Red Allen stuff, or New York Ramblers.
He has an 'album' entitled 'Early Dawg'; mite could be even digital now.

[jefflester]

That stuff isn't really 'Early'; find his Red Allen stuff, or New York Ramblers.

Or Earth Opera.

"Early Dawg" is available on CD.

[AlanN]

That stuff isn't really 'Early'; find his Red Allen stuff, or New York Ramblers.
He has an 'album' entitled 'Early Dawg'; mite could be even digital now.

I indeed found all that long ago...thanks.

[allenhopkins]

There's an old Verve Folkways album, Hazel & Alice, with Hazel Dickens and Alice Gerrard (Foster, Seeger etc.). I believe it has Grisman on mandolin and Lamar Grier on banjo, with the two women on guitar and bass. Probably '60's vintage.

Later: found this on eFolkMusic:

Bolstered by their experiences, Hazel and Alice recorded their first album for Folkways in 1965. Backed by some of the finest players in bluegrass -- including legendary fiddler Chubby Wise, David Grisman on mandolin, and banjoist Lamar Grier -- the album was electrifying, and featured several original songs by Hazel and Alice. A second album for Folkways was recorded, and the pair continued to perform.

I believe the 1965 album was called Who's That Knocking; Hazel & Alice was a later one on Rounder.

[SternART]

Yep........David Nichtern on guitar.....he wrote Midnight at the Oasis / Maria Mulduar's big hit.
Sometimes she would sit in with them.

[Michael Cameron]

Yep........David Nichtern on guitar.....he wrote Midnight at the Oasis / Maria Mulduar's big hit.
Sometimes she would sit in with them.

ART,thou art a priceless resource.

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