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    This phrase pops up from time to time on the Cafe website and I'm wondering about the exact attribution. As I recall, it was Bill Monroe's assessement of some act which he didn't consider to be "Bluegrass". Is that correct? Who was it? (Something tells me it was his rejection of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's invitation to take part in "Will the Circle Be Unbroken".

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    I don't know, but the question reminds me of Mark Twain's admonishment that we should never let the truth interfere with a good story.

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    I believe Bill made that statement when asked what he thought about using dobro's in bluegrass music.

    Bill replied something to the effect of: "A dobro? Why, that ain't no part of nothin'."


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    Well,you can't argue with that !,
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    It was part of Mr. Monroe's everyday language. He probably said it thousands of times about thousands of things. Peter Rowan even memorialized it in one of his songs about Bill.
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    Between this quote and the infamous butchered headstock, one must ask... Who had "a case of the Mondays?"

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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    I can't speak to the phrase's history, but if you get rid of the triple-negative, it is still seems consistent with his original intent -- but it lacks the gruff charm of the original: "That is no part of anything".
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    I believe Mike is correct, in that it was a common phrase from Bill. That said, the first time I heard of it was in reading about Bill's response to Newgrass, and specifically the Newgrass Revival.
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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    It was part of Mr. Monroe's everyday language. He probably said it thousands of times about thousands of things.
    Maybe true...
    But I listened to 40-50 interviews with Mr. Bill trying to find him saying it, and never heard him utter the phrase even once....

    If anyone has it on tape anywhere, I'd love to hear it...

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    As far as most of us know, the only witness to that statement was Sam Bush. More and more, I find that the statement applies to more and more things in modern life

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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    I've heard it attributed to his thoughts on the Newgrass movement.

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    I have heard it was about dobro and I have heard it was about Elvis doing Blue Moon of Kentucky. Who knows

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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    The statement comes from the book " Can't You Hear Me Callin'" by Richard Smith.

    As for having a recording of I don't have one but I do recall him speaking in those terms about new grass.....

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    The way I've heard it told ... Mr. Bill asked Sam Bush, "What do you call that music you play?" Bush, "Newgrass?" Mr. Bill, "Yeah, I hate that!" or "That ain't no part of nuthin." I forget, but he apparently used it as a figure of speech frequently.

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    He said it to me when I showed him the space where the cuckoo I hadn't made to fit into a cuckoo clock that I didn't have was.

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    Monroe's standard response to playing he thought in bad taste, according to Kenny Baker.

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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    In a wonderful example of irony, I believe Monroe used this phrase to refer to the phrase itself, and it's association with the English language.

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    He once said' "If you can't play twin fiddle you ain't no part of nuthin," discussing fiddlers with Eddie Ducomun.

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    Wonder if any one makes a tee shirt with that phrase on it?
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    When referring to New Grass revival, Mr. Bill said at least once, "They're really wonderful", and "they can really sing and play"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Hart View Post
    Wonder if any one makes a tee shirt with that phrase on it?
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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    I got taken to the "woodshed" a few times by Mr. Monroe as a young teenager. He woudl show you how he wanted it and expected you to do it. ....period......he could get frustrated with you very quickly. But I was so awed that he took the time to work with my brother and me that I can't complain......it just caused my knees to knock together.....

    But he would express his displeasure in terse terms....."That ain't it" etc so using the double negatives and being terse fits right in with the man of few words.

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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    it was about Elvis doing Blue Moon of Kentucky.
    Them was some powerful checks...

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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    I have a documentary DVD about Bill, and on the topic of Elvis doing "Blue Moon of Kentucky" he says that "If it helped him get his start, it was fine by him"... Perhaps the residual checks that rolled in as writer of the afore mentioned tune tempered his opinion a bit... Great documentary BTW, I highly recommend it... Bill Monroe - Father of Bluegrass Music, not one cranky comment and a bunch of cool people reminiscing, including interviews with Bill by John Hartford and others...
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    Default Re: "That ain't no part of nothin' "

    Good thing Big Mon' never heard the Kentucky Headhunters version of "Walk Softly".

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