I go along with the Doyle version, or, THE ISAACS!!! (see their youtube version.)
I go along with the Doyle version, or, THE ISAACS!!! (see their youtube version.)
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No one has ever sang a more moving version than the great Enrico Pallazo
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From Craig Ferguson's monologue tonight: "Less of the warbling, more of the getting the words right." Pretty well sums it up.
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Jeepers, JR! What is the point of quoting that whole incredibly long post? My finger almost cramped up from having to scroll through all of that - twice! Why do people quote entire posts, including video clips? Most of the time it is pretty clear to what they are responding, or maybe just a selected bit of pertinent text is useful. But the whole thing? I yi yi!
Here in America, most people are aware of only the first verse of Francis Scott Key's lyrics, and apart from possibly some singing societies and such, the lyrics to "To Anacreon in Heaven" are virtually unknown. So while she (pretty clearly) had a brain fart, I would characterize the chances of her slipping into the collective unconsciousness deeply enough to sing those lyrics as arbitrarily close to zero. That said, she must have had some training. The Mickey Mouse Club doesn't take just anybody. Looking through her wikipedia page turned up some interesting info, most relevant the following:
As a child, Aguilera aspired to be a singer. She was known locally as "the little girl with the big voice", singing in local talent shows and competitions. She attended Marshall Middle School near Wexford and North Allegheny Intermediate High School until she was later home schooled. On March 15, 1990, she appeared on Star Search singing "A Sunday Kind of Love", but lost the competition at number 2. Soon after losing on Star Search, she returned home and appeared on Pittsburgh's KDKA-TV's Wake Up With Larry Richert to perform the same song. Throughout her youth in Pittsburgh, Aguilera sang "The Star-Spangled Banner" before Pittsburgh Penguins hockey, Pittsburgh Steelers football and Pittsburgh Pirates baseball games, including during the 1992 Stanley Cup Finals.
So the clip Scott posted was not a one-shot deal, and regardless of the extent of her training (nothing specific mentioned), she has had plenty of experience in singing the SSB, even if it goes back a while. Interesting to see she was an actual Star Search contestant. That kind of training seems to have stuck.
I think she got distracted, nervous, or as George suggested, a little careless. One more run-through could have helped. But Willie - what a brilliant idea! The gazillions of dollars that went into that enormous display ... it really should have been used as a huge teleprompter for everybody. Including Christina. That is the most helpful comment in this whole thread, and possibly the only really worthwhile one. Thank you!
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Maybe like this on the big screen...
it really should have been used as a huge teleprompter for everybody. Including Christina.
...for you, maybe.That is the most helpful comment in this whole thread, and possibly the only really worthwhile one.
I'm a little aghast at the comments that the anthem should be sung in a manner allowing the people in the stands to sing along. It is commonly remarked on what a difficult song it is to sing and with a melody encompassing a 12th, it really is. I have pretty extensive range and I am always very careful to choose a key that puts that high note in my wheelhouse. 99% of the people in the stands don't have a chance of touching that note regardless of what key it is in, especially when you take into account that there are both males and females attempting the melody.
I prefer to have the announcement, "Please rise and listen as (whoever) sings our national anthem." I don't want them to sing along. If we want people to sing along, we must have a different anthem.
IMO, YMMV, etc.
Where was Susan Boyle when we needed her?
Or Jackie Evancho. Next year!
Turns out Ms A is second only to Madonna in sales by a solo artist this century, with over 50 million units sold. And with a big splashy movie out now, too, clearly there is a lot of juice behind her. Same with Lea Michelle, who sang "God Bless America" earlier, star of the very popular "Glee" (also on Fox, BTW). These performers are chosen to boost ratings. What happens on game day, obviously, is up to the vagaries of happenstance.
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Bruce - It has been years since I have attended a sporting event or been in a situation where the anthem is being sung, but I believe the announcement is usually stated, "Please rise for our national anthem." I cannot recall how the featured singer is introduced. So I don't know whether it is suggested everyone sing; everyone is supposed to stand to show respect. Personally, I hardly ever sing along, but I do believe it is customary but voluntary to do so. Whether or not most people are capable of singing it in the same key that the singer has chosen, it is our anthem and we are saddled with it and its challenge. Attempts have been made to replace it, all of which have failed. "America (Of Thee I Sing)" is sometimes substituted, but since its melody is from "God Save The King," that will never succeed. I think the crowd singing along is a charming custom, but I am happy to just listen, as I am sure many others are.
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The obvious solution is to simply retire "The Anacreontic Banner" and replace it with either "America The Beautiful" (the Ray Charles version, of course) or Woody Guthrie's "This Land Is My Land", both having lyrics that make a lot more sense and melodies which non-acrobats (i.e. citizens) can sing.
(And....as far as Susan Boyle is concerned, you do realise that since she actually is a citizen of the British crown, it would be illegal (treasonous, actually) her for to sing an insurrectionist anthem.)
Problem solved.
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BTW: "My Country Tis Of Thee" uses the melody to "God Save The King/Queen", not "America The Beautiful" .
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The singers should sing it with respect for the song and what its meaning. Maybe we should get Susan Boyle to sing it. The song may get more respect than it does from it is own citizens. Did you happen to see how few football players had there hands on there hearts during its singing. I think I will stop here before I get banned.
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Woody Guthrie's This Land Is My Land would make the perfect national anthem for the United States of America. This fact alone almost certainly ensures that it will never be the national anthem.
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Wouldn't it be cool if Congress commissioned Michael Stipe to write a new National Anthem? That would be one song that NO ONE would be able to sing OR understand the meaning of.
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I don't think "This Land Is My Land" will ever become the anthem. Woody Guthrie was such a "commie rabble rouser" that conservatives would fight it tooth and nail. There are some later verses that are a bit satirical or proselytizing or - well, I'll just say not as blithe as the first verse or two or three. Even so, a lot of people grew up singing this and are familiar with it, and it does have a nice lilt and warm sentiments (until you dig deeper). I remember Gillian Welch telling me that this song was one that sparked her interest in music as a child, singing it in elementary school way out in California. Somehow that led her to music more commonly associated with Appalachia, which ultimately informed her personal musical style.
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Can you imagine "This Land is Your Land" sung in the style that the National Anthem is currently sung. Half the speed, twice as long, seven or eight extremely soulful eye-scrunching notes per syllable. Quick - where's the bucket.
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I felt so strongly about having an overhyped popstar do the anthem this year. Don't get me wrong, CA has some wicked vocal skills. Just give the Anthem the respect it deserves. This is clip from SNL shows the absurdity of The Star Search factor that has taken over The National Anthem. I mean no disrespect of the Anthem by posting this clip, it illustrates the ridiculous way some choose to sing it.
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Do you REALLY think that a crowd singing the national anthem is about being on pitch? I don't care how badly they sing it, there's no substitute for regular people participating in things (like singing the anthem) as opposed to having highly-paid, so-called professionals do it for them.
Heh Alan.........I must disagree with the Whitney Houston version........man 'o man that really was a soul-stirring version of the national anthem. I hadn't seen it in years but just went back & watched it and she nailed it IMHO...:-) What strikes me is her face......absolutely lit up and I think she maybe sensed how charged the audience was and she seems to feed on that as the anthem progresses.
Anyways.......that version has always been one of my favourite "modern" renditions but I do agree with many comments that today singers try to multiple-syllablize the anthem to death & I am not a fan of that at all.
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Nobody, not even the pros, sing exactly on pitch. That is not the point at all. If the melody was a single tone, not everybody could sing it on pitch. You don't care how badly they sing it. OK, I do. Many people are embarassed about their inability to sing it well, and therefore won't even try, and some people even come close to hurting themselves if they do try.
If you want people to sing an anthem the melody should be something the "man on the street" can execute without feeling or sounding foolish. I think you have an excellent anthem for your country. "Oh Canada" encompasses an octave, which is enough to give the melody some character and still be within the range of the common man - although the chosen performance key may place it outside the range of the common woman or vice/versa.
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