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    That D'Angelico Lyon & Healy copy is a cool one. I have to get down there to try it. I like the understatedness.

    I think most of the two points were f-holed as well... not sure how many ovals. Benjamin, do you have an idea?
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    Wowza! I didn't know he ever made anything like that. I'm clad to see he didn't use the 3 piece neck with fiber insert. I wonder if that flaw had been realized by that time?
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    I have a feeling that John D'Angelico would have made it according to his own rules. There were prob very few L&Hs made by then anyway.

    This one belonged to a member of the New York Mandolin Orchestra.
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    Jim- Do you know the number or any other information on the Mandolin that belonged to a member of the New York Mandolin Orchestra?
    Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
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    Benjamin: I can find out. I have a few more from various sales and auctions in my files. I will compile a list and see if there are any you are missing.
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    Here's a special one from an Auction earlier this year. Click image for larger version. 

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    From the Auction House- "This D’Angelico mandolin does not have a serial number, but it was one of only a select few that D’Angelico made during the 1950s. Its parts all date from the ’50s, the binding is consistent with that of the period, and the materials are mostly the domestic varieties that D’Angelico was using during that timeframe. The nickel-plated stairstep bridge engraved with the D’Angelico name does not appear on any other known mandolin, and the broken pediment with cupola headstock design is more elaborate than that seen on Erminio Marino’s mandolin made during the mid ’40s, which also has no serial number.


As noted by Marino’s account in the book D’Angelico Master Guitar Builder by Frank W.M. Green, D’Angelico was focused exclusively on building guitars during the mid-’40s and onward, essentially refusinhg to build mandolins. He’d only make rare exceptions for highly visible performers, which appears to be the case with this example. It features an unusual satin finish that doesn’t reflect glare from spotlights, and it is intentionally missing a fret at the normal 23rd position (a slot for that fret wasn’t even cut) to make it easier to finger double octave flourishes at the 24th fret. The flame figuring of the curly maple is absolutely dazzling.


Gruhn Guitars sold this mandolin to its current owner along with the claim that it is the same D’Angelico mandolin played by Andy Fairweather-Low on “Lonely Stranger” during Eric Clapton’s 1992 Unplugged performance. This mandolin matches the Unplugged mandolin in every visible way that can be determined from the video, including the eight block fretboard inlays, headstock design, and possibly unique stairstep tailpiece.


Serial number: None
Top: Spruce, natural finish
Back and sides: Maple
Neck: Maple 
Fretboard: Ebony
Frets: 23
Bridge/tailpiece: Ebony with rectangular inlays, nickel-plated D’Angelico stairstep trapeze
Tuners: Nickel-plated Waverly four-on-a-plate with metal buttons."
    Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
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    Do you have the serial number on this one?
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    Mrmando- the write up says there is no Serial #.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin T View Post
    "This D’Angelico mandolin does not have a serial number, but it was one of only a select few that D’Angelico made during the 1950s."
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    Do you have the serial number on this one?
    Martin, are you catching my disease of reading too fast?
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    Crazy, starting bid!
    Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
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    Benjamin: is this a recent auction? It looks like a replay of the Guernsey auction of a few month ago, Hank Risan's collection. Similar stupid starting bids, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Benjamin: is this a recent auction? It looks like a replay of the Guernsey auction of a few month ago, Hank Risan's collection. Similar stupid starting bids, too.
    Yeah, that's the one, Jim. Pretty ridiculous expectation for it to start there or EVEN end there, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Martin, are you catching my disease of reading too fast?
    Must be...
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    Yeah, that's the one, Jim. Pretty ridiculous expectation for it to start there or EVEN end there, IMHO.
    Well, considering that my 1950s D'Angelico has been on the block for 2+ years at less than $10K, I'm forced to agree.
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    I have played a bunch of D'Angelico mandolins. Mandolin Brothers has a few including that 12 string that Andy Statman wails away on. They are all nice mandolins but often there are better mandolins for that amount of money. For instance, I played the L&H clone at MB a few months ago and liked it but it was certainly no better IMHO than my actual L&H. OTOH I have played a few D'As that were exceptional including a simple A model that was to die for.
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    Just got a heads up about #158, a blond f-hole, that I must have missed in the Met exhibition. Hopefully, I will be posting some images soon. I wish I knew how that one slipped passed me...
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    1942 #158 D'Angelico Blonde- from Carter Vintage Guitars in Nashville, " A rare mandolin from the legendary archtop builder! This incredible example, formally on exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, was previously owned by G.E. Smith, and used on the album Tone Poems II by David Grisman and Martin Taylor. The original deteriorating pickguard has been removed but is still with the instrument. Comes with a period hard case. "Click image for larger version. 

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    from D'Angelico's log book- 1942 #158 Scroll 2/6/42

    From Mandozine: Regarding Tone Poems II Track 15: Unforgettable
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    Cool Provenance!
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    For your viewing pleasure, I present #115, the newest addition to the D'Angelico Registry.
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    Thank you John Reischman for indirectly leading me to this one in an Instagram post about a Gibson 3 Point F4 at the same dealer, Schoenberg Guitars.
    Raphael Ciani Galiano circa 1920
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    John D'Angelico 1933
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    To me, this is the most beautiful mandolin John D'Angelico made... known so far.
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    For your viewing pleasure, I present #115, the newest addition to the D'Angelico Registry.
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    Thank you John Reischman for indirectly leading me to this one in an Instagram post about a Gibson 3 Point F4 at the same dealer, Schoenberg Guitars.
    That is a beauty. It looks like it might have a wider neck. Any more info?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin T View Post
    To me, this is the most beautiful mandolin John D'Angelico made... known so far.
    Currently at Carter Vintage Guitars.
    That one looks like D'Angelico put some of his own styling into and that it was the influence for the four (I think) mandolins that Jimmy D'Aquisto made. It has those "flying" points unlike L&Hs.
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    Jim, here is the description from Schoenberg Guitars, "Very rare, one of only around 50 mandolins made by John D'Angelico, the most highly regarded builder of archtop guitars. This is what he called his "Plain" model, with ?-holes, out of spruce and maple. It is quite lovely sounding, which is not always the case with D'Angelico's mandolins. It has a sunburst finish which has had some french polish repair to an area on the back, otherwise it's in excellent condition, and appears to be all original. The serial number is 115, which predates the mandolins recorded in his register. Slightly bigger than a Gibson A with a shorter scale - he was mostly building for the classical/Italian player - it has a very nicely shaped small neck."
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    Gorgeous 1945-ish D'Angelico now listed at Wexer Guitars, serial #169, $15,000:

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    As usual, I post this here not so much in the disinterested spirit of mutual fellowship, but rather because I want someone else to buy it so I don't have to think about it every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat View Post
    Gorgeous 1945-ish D'Angelico now listed at Wexer Guitars, serial #169, $15,000:

    https://www.gbase.com/powered/lauren...-1945-sunburst

    As usual, I post this here not so much in the disinterested spirit of mutual fellowship, but rather because I want someone else to buy it so I don't have to think about it every day.
    I personally played this one at the Philly guitar show where Larry picked this up from the original family, it is an amazing sounding example, very clean and tone for days! I wouldn't mind having this one! It has the it factor! Never played a D'A until this one and YEH man! Love it and the case is really neat also!

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    A front and back image for posteriority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrasser78 View Post
    I personally played this one at the Philly guitar show where Larry picked this up from the original family, it is an amazing sounding example, very clean and tone for days! I wouldn't mind having this one! It has the it factor! Never played a D'A until this one and YEH man! Love it and the case is really neat also!
    I usually put some pieces on display at the Vintage Blues Guitars booth at the Philly show. My mandobass usually draws a crowd. Next show your at stop by and say hi.

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    Just realized this post probably doesn’t belong in the D’Angelico archive thread. I’ll delete it in a day or so.

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