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    Default Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1924...item53eb8ec3ab

    Well there you have it....an undocumented "Loar"

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    I'm in...

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    But it now
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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Not a lot of energy put into fooling the experts here. Wonder who built it? The serial number would fit the Feb. 18, 1924 batch, if it were real.
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    Got to love the missing Florida.

    The Mandolin Cafe case sticker does ad some semblance of authenticity. It had to pass through the hands of somebody that's been here. I wonder if that is the original Loar case?

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    The Mandolin Cafe case sticker does ad some semblance of authenticity.
    I wasn't exactly thrilled to see that.

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    I figured you weren't too thrilled.

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    The sticker may actually help. A potential buyer might just log on and ask about that particular mandolin.
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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Lots of strangeness here...
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    Might sound a lot better than it looks. Dempseys Hutto wasnt pretty but it did soud real good.Could be an early Ward , Shue or a lot of carolinas builders who knows. It may peel the paint off the wall and blow you hair back.Some of the prettiest mandolinsive seen didnt sound all that good

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    That's not really the point. The point is, it is being represented as something it isn't.

    Unless it really IS a...remodled? Loar.
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    It's not.

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    I need a sarcasm icon.
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    it says f5 style in the description I dont think the expect to fool anybody

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    It's uo to $2,025 Better hurry.
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    It's real but Sam Bush got to it or a maybe just a Sam Bush devotee. I bet it gets pulled. Just for grins I would love to see this one play out though.

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Besides way too much flame in the sides and back, are there any side bound Feb 18th's? At least they are not trying to pass it off as an unsigned Loar.

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Quote Originally Posted by baptist mando55 View Post
    it says f5 style in the description I dont think the expect to fool anybody
    I wouldn't bank on that. The text from the auction is, and I quote:

    "You Are Bidding On A Pre-Owned 1924 The Gibson Master Model Style F5 Mandolin Numbers 75337"

    I don't see anything there that would even suggest that they weren't selling it as the real deal.

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    Dang, I thought I had it for $2,001... maybe next year....

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    All this puppy needs is a Loar style fingerboard, tailpiece cover,waverly tuners and pickguard and a change of label to read a July 9, 1923 serial no. and add the signed and dated Lloyd Loar label and you are good to go with an authentic fake July 9th Loar with side binding. So close yet so far away.
    When you are showing a serial no. and adding the date to the mandolin you are selling it as the real deal. I don't see using the word "style" as a protection agains forgery.

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    hey Gary, Ken and Darryl, This may be one of those rare unsigned Loar years "2nds" we heard so much about from that dealer in the midwest that claims to have seen dozens of them and has documentation and photos of all the '22,'23,24 unsigned Loars.

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Im pretty sure that MandolinCafe sticker is a fake too.
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    Check that Mandolincafe sticker for Scott's signature!

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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Quote Originally Posted by f5loar View Post
    hey Gary, Ken and Darryl, This may be one of those rare unsigned Loar years "2nds" we heard so much about
    More like a 3rd, or a 4th.
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    Default Re: Whoa Boy....can't wait until this gets discussed..

    Only twenty frets and a scroll like that I'm not surprised Lloyd didn't sign it.
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