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    Default Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    ...and the absolute pitch bit starts at 5:15:


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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    Meanwhile, cat is still asleep in case.

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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    Seriously, though, this was amazing to me. If a serious-minded golden retriever can learn to identify pitches through trial and error like this, it makes me think maybe I should give it an honest try.

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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    I think you missed the point of the video; the dog is probably the one mystified at how feeble OUR ear training is.

    But if it inspires you to train, whatever floats your boat!

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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    She's giving him hand signals

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb3868 View Post
    She's giving him hand signals
    I think you are right.
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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    I think you are right.
    With the note names, she does gesture a lot with her hands. I don't know if she's trying to associate certain hand gestures with certain notes or what... I don't think she's pointing at individual keys, but she might be helping him out. If you go to 9:00 in or so, when she's using the pitch pipe, I don't see any hand signals. There might a 'Clever Hans' thing going on, of course, since dogs are expert at reading people's cues.

    Just for fun: that dog's blonder cousin can also read sheet music.


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    It's interesting how both dogs seem to be right-handed (or right-pawed, I guess I should say). Both of them use only the right paw to play the notes.

    Jack

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    Also, as far as giving hand signals goes, in the first video it's hard to see her, but when she's playing the notes on the flute both her hands are on the flute, so I don't think she's giving hand signals then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCook View Post
    Also, as far as giving hand signals goes, in the first video it's hard to see her, but when she's playing the notes on the flute both her hands are on the flute, so I don't think she's giving hand signals then.

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    When she's playing the flute she leans in the direction the dog needs to go. Those dogs watch her very carefully. Which is not to say they don't also know the notes, but they are getting strong visual cues.

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    There is a rich tradition of these types of demonstrations falling apart when the trainer is visually cut off from the animal.

    Still, it's possible.
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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    clearly she's holding up tab for fido to play by.

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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    I used to occasionally look after my parents old dog, when I would play guitar he would always whine in tune. The cats I have never do this. Dogs clearly have perfect (if relative) pitch.

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    I think its great, and it combines 2 of my 3 fave things, music and dogs, now if one of them could just do it while biking I'd be in bliss.
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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    There was a famous case of a horse that could do math, during the 30s I think. The horses owner would ask the horse a subtraction question or a multiplication question and the horse would tap a front foot the correct number of times, with no apparent prompting from the owner.

    Apparently the horse would just tap with enough gap after each one so that if the audience started to clap he could stop and look like he meant it.
    A talent for trivializin' the momentous and complicatin' the obvious.

    The entire staff
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    Default Re: Demonstration of European ear training and solfege techniques

    Then there is the great old (very old) joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R29zoKGJvA
    A talent for trivializin' the momentous and complicatin' the obvious.

    The entire staff
    funny....

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