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    Nice looking mandolin.

    Not $2.5K nice, IMHO.
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    Mandolinetto with high action. Seller does say he posted with high price to find the real one, but this is a lower end Lyon & Healy oak mandolin.
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    If you want to use eBay to find the real price, post it for a dollar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Mandolinetto with high action..... this is a lower end Lyon & Healy oak mandolin.
    That oak grain pattern is so classically intense, iconic even, that it makes one think of grain painting techniques.

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    I have an old Victoria brand guitar with tiger oak back that sounds great. I've never heard a mandolin with that tonewood, but it might be something unique. The price does seem high given the lack of a brand name, possible finish work and the need for repairs. You could probably find a quality rosewood Howe Orme in playable condition for that much. Still at the right price, the oak back might be tempting. Plus I think it looks cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    If you want to use eBay to find the real price, post it for a dollar.
    I'm not sure I would do that if I was selling a Lloyd Loar signed F-5 Gibson. Given the current market, it would be a great way for the buyer to get a great deal... not so much for the seller... and that goes for many other items.

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    Greek baglama. For what they're asking, you could fly to Athens and buy a brand new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by your_diamond View Post
    I'm not sure I would do that if I was selling a Lloyd Loar signed F-5 Gibson. Given the current market, it would be a great way for the buyer to get a great deal... not so much for the seller... and that goes for many other items.
    That's why they have reserves. Put an extremely high reserve on it and start it at a dollar. You'll have an idea of what the market will pay at the end of the auction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    That's why they have reserves. Put an extremely high reserve on it and start it at a dollar. You'll have an idea of what the market will pay at the end of the auction.
    Well, in theory this is correct, but two thoughts based on my experience. First, eBay charges 4% for adding the reserve feature. On a $2500 instrument that would be $100, just to "find out" what the market will pay. And that is in addition to the final value fee and Paypal fee, which combine to be about 14% of the selling price. So, IMHO, the reserve is an expensive feature on eBay. It didn't used to be that way, when eBay started it was inexpensive to put a reserve on an item, but eBay found a way to "discourage" reserves so it would result in more sales -- FOR THEM!

    Also, it might not actually result in telling you what the market is, because bidders don't like bidding against a reserve -- they like bidding against other bidders. Same with live auctions, nobody likes it when the auctioneer says we already have a bid of $2500 on this, does anyone want bid $2550? Nobody likes to start that high. But, you're right, starting at a dollar (without a reserve) is a great way to create bidder excitement and (in the old days) often resulted in an item selling for more than the seller was hoping for.

    OTOH, let's say you do the reserve for $2500 and the bidding peters out at $1450. I doubt if you are going to relist it for $1450, when you wanted $2500 for it, right? So, it goes back in the closet and it cost you $100 to find out. In fairness, eBay does put a cap on reserve fees at $100, so listing a signed Loar with a $175K reserve, would still cost you "just" $100, which probably is more fair, in proportion to its worth. However, you might not want to find out the result of such an experiment......I'm guessing it would be shocking!

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    Here's a real beaut and reduced to 45% of its original price. Don't all fight over this Vintage Used Mandolin Inlayed Mother of Pearl Wood String Instrument Neck Parts!

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    Hey Jim, I’ll split it with you; it won’t require much effort!
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    At least he offers free shipping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Here's a real beaut and reduced to 45% of its original price. Don't all fight over this Vintage Used Mandolin Inlayed Mother of Pearl Wood String Instrument Neck Parts!

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    Lol. Amazing what people try to sell nowadays. In the old days that would've went straight into the woodstove, although probably many fine fixable instruments were lost that way.

    And I never would have guessed if the seller hadn't specified: "... dirtiness found; this item is not in playable condition"

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    I intended to ask for a discount because the bridge is not in correct position, to be proved by position of the 12th fret, as soon as I see one
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    Oh, so that's what "overall wear" means. No wonder some would rather bid on Bill Monroe's toaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertram Henze View Post
    ... the bridge is not in correct position, to be proved by position of the 12th fret, as soon as I see one
    It's the new fretless mandolin. Correct bridge position is, anywhere you want! And the clever builder 'distressed' the mandolin a little to give it that 'relic' look, so the player wouldn't have to suffer the shame and embarrassment of showing up in public playing a shiny new mandolin like some sort of greenhorn. It gives you that "experienced player look" for greater street cred.
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    I wish I had some mand'lin strings, old Black Diamond brand
    But I'd have to hock this Martin box, 'cause they cost almost two grand ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    I wish I had some mand'lin strings, old Black Diamond brand
    But I'd have to hock this Martin box, 'cause they cost almost two grand ...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/14-Vintage-...gAAOSwdJ9aQCNz
    Yes, but shipping is only $5.50 ! What a deal!

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    Here is one to get excited about:

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    This looks so vegetarian...
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    A gourd tenor guitar... or something.

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    $1795.00 for strings completely blows my mind! (What is left of it, that is! LOL!!)

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    Wow, maybe I should put my Black Diamond string box collection up for sale. Wonder what I could get for the retail box with multiple drawers for different styles of strings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmando View Post
    I wish I had some mand'lin strings, old Black Diamond brand
    But I'd have to hock this Martin box, 'cause they cost almost two grand ...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/14-Vintage-...gAAOSwdJ9aQCNz
    I'm wondering if that price is a typo. Most of his stuff is in the $25-100 range. He has almost 12,000 feedbacks -- all positive....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL277z View Post
    A gourd tenor guitar... or something.

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    Well, it is folksy and funky but there is a whole subculture of gourd instruments esp banjos. Listen to Adam Hurt playing his.

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