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    Better strings helped it sound better than it did out of the box; a good set-up is next.

    So yeah, this is twice what it should be, more or less.
    One thing I've learned about an F4 - it wants to be an only child. Sounds the best when there are no other nearby mandolins to endlessly compare it against

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    This one is even more ridiculous....

    https://reverb.com/item/47200281-gib...m=Feed%20Email
    You're right! An A doesn't become an A2 all by itself, and no amount of ad copy can change that. Seller should take a look at his own photos, FCOL. And as beat up as this is, asking a tenth of that is too much. "Used - excellent."
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    Default Re: This weeks mandolin that won't get a bid or buyer

    All these crazy prices make me appreciate my F2 all the more.

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    Right? The damage it sustained didn't affect its playability, at least after the luthier was done fixing it. Of course, it's no longer collectible, which in some ways is a good thing - it kept the price down, yet if it plays fine, that's what matters. This A model, though ... I don't know what the seller is thinking. It needs a lot of work. Yes, they promise to do the job right, but restored and refinished? Not for that much. And they really should stop calling it an A-2. Look at the label, look at the headstock. ĦAy caramba!
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    As far as I've seen, a Loar-era F4 (compared to an earlier F4) is just an F4 with a truss rod. Am I wrong?
    Other differences that occurred in the early 1920's: The necks were slimmed down sometime during 1922 or '23. Adjustable bridges start to appear in 1921. At some point, the cam style pickguard clamp is phased out and replaced with a screw-in mounting bracket. The flowerpot peghead inlay is redesigned to accommodate the truss rod. None of these changes occurred overnight, they were phased in gradually.

    I think the magic "Loar" tone comes from the new pickguard bracket and the redesigned flowerpot.

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    …….I think the magic "Loar" tone comes from the new pickguard bracket and the redesigned flowerpot.
    Sort of.

    Most people don’t realize that the new pickguard bracket allowed the pickguard to act as an external Virsi-type device, hence the enhanced tone.
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    Right. Far from it blocking the sound coming out of the treble f-hole, it resonated, initiating the production of even more brilliant tones and higher volume. Ever notice how much people ask for vintage pickguards? This is why. A dirty little secret that, now I've told, might see me suffer the consequences if the Virzi mob can find me. I might have to alert the Bluegrass Police.
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    No, that's not it at all. The old bracket exerted vertical tension on the mandolin rib, which restricted its horizontal oscillations and increased the resonant frequency of the rib beyond its ideal critical value. The new bracket relieved the rib of this tension so that its vibrations could be transmitted through the air in a parabolic arch and collected in the new, more efficiently designed flowerpot. The new flowerpot had a higher resonant frequency than the old one, which had the same "Q" as the newly released rib vibrations, which caused them to bounce when they hit the bottom of the flowerpot and spring out with highly magnified velocity right towards the player's ear.

    I know I'm right-- I took a 13 week course in non-calculus based physics in 1982 and got an "A".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazz Jass View Post
    This one is even more ridiculous....

    https://reverb.com/item/47200281-gib...m=Feed%20Email
    This guy is going to need more than $8500 or $9999.11 to pay his legal bill if Garrett Park spots his ad and decides to report him to the Federal Trade Commission for using that image of their old A-2 listing with the intentionally modified price. I wonder if he knows how to spell F-R-A-U-D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeybear View Post
    Right? The damage it sustained didn't affect its playability, at least after the luthier was done fixing it. Of course, it's no longer collectible, which in some ways is a good thing - it kept the price down, yet if it plays fine, that's what matters. This A model, though ... I don't know what the seller is thinking. It needs a lot of work. Yes, they promise to do the job right, but restored and refinished? Not for that much. And they really should stop calling it an A-2. Look at the label, look at the headstock. ĦAy caramba!
    I looked at the label - that's not a 1921 label like I ever saw!


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