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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    I had one of these, probably made by L&H, lovely inlay, but price is astronomical. About 4 or 5% of that price would be optimistic. Granted, it does look like it is in excellent condition, but still...

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    I contacted the seller and he said he was aware that the price was high but still has not changed it. Hope springs eternal!
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    This is a folky looking two-point in funky condition that the seller has IDed as a Regal. I highly doubt it. More than likely a homemade job by a decent amateur. It sort of resembles some two point flatbacked Regals but they are not a roughly made as this.

    I like how the seller puts Washburn & Martin in the title.

    And i the description below:
    Its got some cracking and heavy wear and tear. Still for such old (what 75+ years!) mando is good shape This Mandolin is a very beautiful looking and playing instrument. This was a attic find so I did not do extensive cleaning. That said it could use a good scrubbing, new strings and should be good to go. As is sound lush and loud.
    So, scrubbing and new strings—I think he forgot the huge crack in the top. "Good to go!" Maybe for half of the asking price it might be fun to glue it back together and might even "sound lush."

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    All that is true, but that instrument sure has beautiful lines.
    Having something to say is highly over rated.

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    I have just received today a set of late 1930s guitar tuners from this seller- they had their original box as well and are probably unused- "Safe Ti String" tuners which were sold as accessories by Oahu and came with their guitars although I have them on my 1941 Kay made Wards retailed Louise Massey cowgirl guitar. The box mentions that you can avoid blood poisoning by using these tuners- the string end goes into a hole in the post and there is also a slot. A very clever idea- and you will not be puncturing your fingers and dying needlessly- the pre-antibiotic age! Anyway, I had a look at his other items and was somewhat amused by the Regal suggestion but I suppose it follows the rule that if you don't know exactly what it is, it might just be a Regal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    All that is true, but that instrument sure has beautiful lines.
    Yes, but I am pretty sure that this mandolin spent the better part of its life in an attic. BTW those tuner posts look a bit odd. I wonder if they are the same kind that NickR bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickR View Post
    Anyway, I had a look at his other items and was somewhat amused by the Regal suggestion but I suppose it follows the rule that if you don't know exactly what it is, it might just be a Regal.
    He covered other bases with Washburn and Martin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    All that is true, but that instrument sure has beautiful lines.
    I saw that, and while the cracks made me cringe, it also kind of made me wish I was a woodworker.

    Not that I need any more instruments, even without giant cracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue Rieter View Post
    I saw that, and while the cracks made me cringe, it also kind of made me wish I was a woodworker.

    Not that I need any more instruments, even without giant cracks.
    My sentiments exactly, though the cracks may be the least of it. Who knows what is going on inside with bracing (if any) and whether the neck is set properly. It looks like it even has a slight radius in the fretboard which is unusual if it really was from the 1930s (I think). On the other hand, mandolins age rapidly in attic or basement conditions so it could easily be 1950 or 1960s.
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    Those tuners look to be German- or very similar to one of the styles used by Levin. If you want to check out Safe Ti String Tuners Jim then this link shows them- you will have to download the pdf of the catalogue. There is a comment from Jake Wildwood and he says they were a Kluson product.

    https://jakewildwood.blogspot.com/20...s-catalog.html

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    We recently had a mandolin posted for identification with some of the traits of this instrument. I love the "Recording King" headstock shape.

    In looking at the other one it was more the "double nut". The tuners were similar but not the same. No help there.

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/t...range-Mandolin
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    Then there is this Suzuki bowlback.....

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Kis...IAAOSw-ntfd1hN



    Maybe they meant $325.oo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    Then there is this Suzuki bowlback.....

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Kis...IAAOSw-ntfd1hN



    Maybe they meant $325.oo
    They only need to find one buyer....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEdgerton View Post
    They only need to find one buyer....
    But you have to live that long.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    This is a folky looking two-point in funky condition that the seller has IDed as a Regal. I highly doubt it. More than likely a homemade job by a decent amateur. It sort of resembles some two point flatbacked Regals but they are not a roughly made as this.

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    Did anyone here win this for $135?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    Then there is this Suzuki bowlback.....

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Kis...IAAOSw-ntfd1hN



    Maybe they meant $325.oo
    That is exactly what they meant. They fixed the price (originally $ 32,500.oo).
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    Apparently, this mandolin has been a star out there in TV Land. It does not have a tailpiece cover, the headstock and an f hole have been doctored. I paid $40 for one with the cloud tailpiece cover. Another, slightly older, in perfect condition- unplayed, it seems, since about 1940 fetched a mere $82 recently.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Kraftsm...gAAOSw8Ntf3mGY

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    Well, hope springs eternal. Maybe it’s another errant decimal point?
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    But this has a "vintage sticker rock star case", so that's gotta mean something

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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-HAN...Cclp%3A2334524

    Interesting handmade 4 string electronic. NFI

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    Looks like something converted from something else.
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    In the classifieds...

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/164372#164372

    More than a tad ambitious I would think.

    And another...

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/164657#164657
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    Yes and the plain A I believe have either a non-original bridge or an original with a bone cap. I am not sure where the seller got that price. I can sort of understand the snakehead seller's thinking. Just look at A-4 snakeheads or A-2Zs but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles E. View Post
    In the classifieds...

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/164372#164372

    More than a tad ambitious I would think.

    And another...

    https://www.mandolincafe.com/ads/164657#164657
    Top one went no place when I clicked on it. So maybe the seller realized it was wrong.

    Second one is definitely a reach. There's a nice A-2 snakehead in the classifieds at half that price. But what do I know?
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    The first link still works, seller looking for 7K for a modest A1 snake head mandolin.

    Bernunzio Music has a similar Gibson, condition wise, for under 1,500.
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    How about this one.. was this a common practise to Copy F5s?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Gibson...IAAOSwmRlfgGVM

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    Yes, in the 1970's through the early 1990's it was common practice for many of the then small number of independent builders to build F-5 style instruments with "The Gibson" logo and replica Master Model labels. They were easily distinguishable from the instruments Gibson was building at that time. Generally speaking, many of those handmade instruments were better than anything that Gibson had built since before WWII.

    And back then, nobody was complaining about the use of the Gibson logo and old style labels. If I remember correctly, Gibson first began to safeguard their rights to the Gibson name around the time that the C.E. Ward instrument was built [1994], and most of the independent builders immediately started to label their instruments with their own names. And no, that instrument was not made by Gibson.

    Some of the builders who made instruments with the Gibson logo back then were Randy Wood, Gene Horner, and Tom Morgan. I think Roger Siminoff might also have made a few with the Gibson logo. I'm sure others can add to the list.

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