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    Strange stringing. I haven’t been able to look on my computer only my phone but a friend said nut is cut with First, Second and Third courses are tripled, four and five are doubled, sixth is single. Jo, is that usual for Filipino bandurrias ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Garber View Post
    Strange stringing. I haven’t been able to look on my computer only my phone but a friend said nut is cut with First, Second and Third courses are tripled, four and five are doubled, sixth is single. Jo, is that usual for Filipino bandurrias ?
    Yep, that's normal for the Philippine bandurria, laud and octavina.
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    Yep, that's normal for the Philippine bandurria, laud and octavina.
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    I wrote the seller a note about her pricing:

    With all due respect, when a dealer offers musical instruments for sale at prices that bear no relation to any existing musical instrument marketplace past, present or future, they may expect to deal with three types of buyers: either bipolar billionaires on a manic binge, difficult ones, i.e. those who might challenge their unhinged valuations, or no buyers at all.

    Arthur Godfrey baritone ukuleles, for instance are common as dishwater. they were mass-produced during the post-war ukulele boom, and they typically sell for between $250 and $500 retail depending on condition and the willingness of the seller to carry inventory. To offer it for nearly $30k as if you are doing the marketplace a favor--that is just silly. Your other instrument prices are, to put it generously, only slightly less maniacal.

    Please do yourselves and the rest of us a real favor and do some basic price comparisons or consult an actual vintage instrument dealer before assaulting Ebay with these second-hand hallucinations.

    All that said, for that certain coterie of bipolar hedge fund managers who also happen to be conveners of their local Victoria Racimo Fan Club Chapter, this will surely be the sales event of their lifetime.
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    Whereupon she blocked me from further communications and raised the price of the bandurria from $999 to $2,999. Welcome to Post-truth Vintage Instruments.

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    Ha ha ha! Thank you for fighting the good fight and tilting at this windmill. It was a noble effort, and even though it produced unsatisfactory results, you did your best and acquitted yourself admirably. Your level of erudition is clearly much higher than the seller's. The response is amusingly appropriate, considering this disparity. If nothing else, you've provided us with something to shake our heads and chuckle about. Much appreciated!
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    Homer & Jethro Joke Books come up pretty often. First time seeing someone trying to sell the Corn Flakes box they came in. Only $15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandolin Cafe View Post
    Homer & Jethro Joke Books come up pretty often. First time seeing someone trying to sell the Corn Flakes box they came in. Only $15.
    Ooooof, that's not aged well. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdsobol View Post
    I wrote the seller a note about her pricing:

    With all due respect, when a dealer offers musical instruments for sale at prices that bear no relation to any existing musical instrument marketplace past, present or future, they may expect to deal with three types of buyers: either bipolar billionaires on a manic binge, difficult ones, i.e. those who might challenge their unhinged valuations, or no buyers at all.

    Arthur Godfrey baritone ukuleles, for instance are common as dishwater. they were mass-produced during the post-war ukulele boom, and they typically sell for between $250 and $500 retail depending on condition and the willingness of the seller to carry inventory. To offer it for nearly $30k as if you are doing the marketplace a favor--that is just silly. Your other instrument prices are, to put it generously, only slightly less maniacal.

    Please do yourselves and the rest of us a real favor and do some basic price comparisons or consult an actual vintage instrument dealer before assaulting Ebay with these second-hand hallucinations.


    All that said, for that certain coterie of bipolar hedge fund managers who also happen to be conveners of their local Victoria Racimo Fan Club Chapter, this will surely be the sales event of their lifetime.
    Best wishes,
    JS

    Whereupon she blocked me from further communications and raised the price of the bandurria from $999 to $2,999. Welcome to Post-truth Vintage Instruments.

    I love the paragraph that states:

    We want these items to go to people who will appreciate and care for the items. We would prefer to not deal with extra picky or difficult buyers for these items. Thank you for your interest.

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    A $15 Corn Flakes box? Ooh! That's corny!

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    I wonder how much the joke book would go for. I mean, that is the star of the show, the big enchilada, the main corn-sideration. If it was all of two bits back then, how much might its value have increased over the years?

    Nemmine. I'm seeing it available for $30 - $50, though there is one damaged copy for a mere $15.

    My search also turned up a few entire threads at the Café devoted to this!
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    Looks like they start at about $45.00. I owned a copy for a while, corny jokes! https://www.amazon.com/Homer-Jethros.../dp/B006SMN2AO
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    Those joke books were available for years for $10, sometimes less. Fewer for sale now that everyone that wanted one snapped them up, so guess that makes them more valued, right? I don't think many are selling for over $20. Just a hunch.

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    Your hunch is probably on the money. (We are talking about corny jokes here.) Seeing a few of these being offered for up to $50 doesn't mean they're selling for that much. There's a difference between asking price and selling price - the kernel of truth driving this thread.

    If one really wanted to, one could snap up this one for a mere $768.57. plus $3.99 for shipping. Now that is this week's item that won't get a bid or buyer.

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    Here's a mandolin (probably?) with a floating guitar bridge and a soundhole much further down the body than usual. Probably made as someone's project, and then the bridge got lost or other alterations were made.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274830100...8AAOSwx6pgw4QO


    And here's a giant zither banjo (just what you *always* wanted! )
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224341971...oAAOSwpDdU~vCm
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    Oh, sure. It's a cheapo-cheapo piece of junk. BUT it's priced to move. It'll be someone's starter or beater. Now, if the seller were asking $1000, I'd say they were nutso. But at $59? Might even be worth it. Though the way it's presented is so apathetic, it might not sell.

    On the other hand - or should I say hands, because it looks like it will take two people to play it/them - the giant banjo(s) ain't goin' nowhere!
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    Speaking of corny.........Why does a duck have feathers? To cover it's butt quack.....................

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    Denny, that’s just down to the ground bad.
    I’ll use it later when I go to the post office!
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    Quote Originally Posted by journeybear View Post
    Oh, sure. It's a cheapo-cheapo piece of junk. BUT it's priced to move. It'll be someone's starter or beater. Now, if the seller were asking $1000, I'd say they were nutso. But at $59? Might even be worth it. Though the way it's presented is so apathetic, it might not sell.
    ....
    Not saying it's the case here, but sometimes pictures are bad for a reason. With the perspective of the picture, it's impossible to say where a [proper] bridge really belongs - I wouldn't be surprised if it needs to go where the soundhole is located.
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    I was referring to the way the instrument is presented - just plopped on the seller's table, with no regard for foreground, background, or anything, really, including leaving other stuff on the table. It's a level of apathy seldom seen in photos of something one is trying to sell.

    BTW, even though the seller describes it as solid, that is a nasty crack near the neck join. Begs the definition of solid.

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    You know JB, I’m getting to like my corner.
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    Huh! Doesn't seem so bad there, after all. I might just have to join you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by journeybear View Post
    BTW, even though the seller describes it as solid, that is a nasty crack near the neck join. Begs the definition of solid.

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    Not a mandolin, but an alternator guitar on the local Craigslist.

    https://houston.craigslist.org/msg/d...343605298.html

    If you're looking for a resonator, resophonic, dobro, national, slide or even steel guitar, this ad won't show up. (Maybe a kind person will let the seller know, so attaching a pic. Maybe they'd be interested in a trade for a "starter" guitar? sorry...)
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    alternator guitar on the local Craigslist.

    https://houston.craigslist.org/msg/d...343605298.html
    It's actually a Shmergel. All Shmergels have the little-known ability to shape-shift to perform other complex tasks, such as substituting for a malfunctioning alternator in a car. Just place the Shmergel anywhere in the engine compartment, wait 30 seconds while it assesses the situation and automatically morphs into the required component, then start the car. In this instance, the transformed Shmergel will retain its new alternator funtionality for up to 24 hours, to allow the owner time to procure a standard alternator. When the Shmergel detects that the situation has been resolved by regular means (and after it has been placed back in its case, for privacy), it automatically morphs back into its original musical instrument form.

    The Craigslist seller has clearly experienced this, and is so delighted that they want the rest of the world to also know of the Shmergel roadside auto-repair capabilities. However, such public displays of enthusiasm are not encouraged, because if too many people know about it, it would create more demand than the factory could keep up with, and too many new instruments flooding the market could devalue Shmergel resale value if they became too common.

    (Yes, of course, we all know that Shmergels are not to be viewed in their natural state. That's why it's disguising itself as a Gretsch in the Craigslist ad.)

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    It couldn't be a Shmergel. The price is far too low. That is, it's actually affordable. Unless the seller doesn't know what he's got. Which it seems, he doesn't - though for other reasons.
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    It couldn't be a Shmergel. The price is far too low.
    The seller might have inadvertently left off a couple of zeros. Craigslist pricing errors are not uncommon, although usually it's the other way around (too many zeros, rather than not enough).

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